Who Likes the Cops?

[N4CR]

Any true westie metaller drinks flame beer. BEst alc/$ ratio. Fuck yeah Tastes good if you are into that sorta stuff... I feel my kvltness enriched. Infact I'll go so far to call flame my beer of choice. It's more rugged than ranfurly 20 packs. Or VB.


Mmmmm student beer.

[Ixion]

I never suffered the ultimate ignominy myself, of being taken home on the pillion seat of the Snakemocycle. But a couple of mates did, at different times.

"Right. Ride the bike to Snake Central. I'll be following behind.Park it up." Then home as a pillion. So the snake could explain to Mum and Dad just what you did. And what had to be done before the precious bike could be reclaimed.

Oh the shame. The embarassment.The irreparable loss of face and cool. The taunts and jeers of ones peers. Not to mention what Dad would do. No, best NOT to mention it. It didn't bear thinking of

No fine, no demerit points, no disqualification, no penalty a court could hand out, could be as bad as having the whole street turn out to watch you being brought home by the traffic cop. And knowing that Mum would have to explain it all to the neighbourhood tomorrow. And knowing how she'd look at you. And how you'd want the floor boards to open up so you could slide between them. Not hard, when you're only three inches tall.

Oh they were terrible, terrible men those snakes.

And then the long bikeless days, before the allotted punishment was worked through, so that the precious bike could be claimed back.

All totally alien to the law I'm sure. But , oh, so VERY effective.

EDIT: The only thing more dorkish and shameful would have been to crash. But I never knew any of my contemporaries do that.

[jonbuoy]

The only time you have to worry is when your breaking the law. Speeding IS breaking the law, I speed and I know one day I might have to start walking to work and hope my boss is sympathetic. If you want to stay on the good side of them - Don't speed and don't break the law. Otherwise you just gotta take it like a man.

[Lou Girardin]

Bravo Sir.mind you see my 'ticket' thread and my respect still got me a ticket which was fine so guess you had luck too..I still have respect for Police

I wondered what it'd take to wake you up. Thoughts of the boys in uniform huh?
You really have to get past the village people thing. The only cop here who wears chaps commando style is scumdog.

[Macktheknife]

Only time I've got grief from Cops was when I've deserved it,and it's been a hell of a long time since I've deserved a hard time from a Cop.I reckon we need more bad Cops...ones who aren't too scared to give some smart arse teenager a clip over the ears,take him home to his parents and tell them what's going on.....um,we need more parents who'll back up the Cop and not take the poor bastard to court for booting their angel up the bum.

I agree, but with a small disclaimer, not bad cops but good cops who know the value of the lessons.
I had several 'things' with the cops when I was a young fella and took my stripes as needed. But I knew that I had earned them, and when given a lesson I actually got the point.
Now I have seen lots of young guys with "I know my rights..." unfortunately they dont often know their responsibilities.
I have no hard feelings towards the cops in general and I respect and appreciate the difficult job they do, I still have a couple of mates who are in the job.
It is no more reasonable to collectively lump all cops as bad, than to collectively lump all bikers as lawless hoons/bastards.

[James Deuce]

It's funny how one man can build a thousand bridges in Africa, enabling better services to poverty stricken regions, but if he sucks one dick, the whole world knows him as a cocksucker, not a bridgebuilder.

[crash harry]

Only time I've got grief from Cops was when I've deserved it,and it's been a hell of a long time since I've deserved a hard time from a Cop.I reckon we need more bad Cops...ones who aren't too scared to give some smart arse teenager a clip over the ears,take him home to his parents and tell them what's going on.....um,we need more parents who'll back up the Cop and not take the poor bastard to court for booting their angel up the bum.

Maybe not Bad cops, I'd call them Hard cops.
But in their position these days I'd be too afraid that someone was going to sue or video it, selectively edit it, and show another "Police Brutality" article on the news.

And yes, good point about the parents. Lack of respect for the police is just a part of the general lack of respect for ANYTHING that some of these little shits have...

Listen to me, I'm starting to sound old... Bugger.

[cowpoos]

Bad boys, bad boys
Wotcha gonna do?
Wotcha gonna do when they come for you?

shut ya fuckin singing up and pick that soap up...biaaaatch!

[crash harry]

One thing that annoys me about cop threads is that there is no distinction between the organisation, or the employees either on the individual level or as a collective.

Which are we talking about?

I was talking about the indiviuals. We all know there are problems with the organisation, though the extent of those problems depends on your point of view a bit... I dunno, I guess I was just getting a bit sick of hearing all the cop bashing on this forum, and on TV, and in the newspaper, and just people in general.

[Beemer]

Still, I also think the media have caused their share of problems. When was the last time you read a piece in the paper or saw something on the news about the police doing something good? I mean, these guys and girls are out there saving peoples lives, and dealing with the detritus of society day in day out. Imagine what society would be like without them? Surely there must be more good than bad to report? I'm sure there is the odd bad bugger amongst them, but why are they the ones who get all the media attention? If there was more positive reporting of the work the Police do then they would be held in higher public regard, which in turn would make it easier for them to recruit more and/or better people which would mean more positive results, higher public regard, etc etc...

It's the old problem that no one is interested in good news and it doesn't sell newspapers! You may get warm fuzzies when you read a story about good, kind people doing nice stuff for others, but the reality is, no one would buy a paper if it was full of good news - sad but true. The community weekly papers do a good job of covering the good news but the dailies really don't have the time or the interest to cover anything other than breaking news - which is mostly bad.

It's not just the police who suffer from bad press, it's just about everyone nowadays - male school teachers, priests, youth - and it's probably due to a lack of respect more than anything. Kids today are often brought up with a distinct lack of manners which develops into a disregard for others.

There is a quote that sums it up - if a dog bites a man, it's not news - but if a man bites a dog, that's news! Most who do good work day in, day out, know that they are liked and respected by those who matter and a glowing report in the paper won't change the way they do their job.

[snuffles]

I still maintain that a good percentage need an atitude adjustment, I have 2 members of my family who were Police and they managed to still be polite to normal law abiding people, I understand the job is crap, but so is mine, but I am still expected to treat people with the politeness and dignity they deserve.

So why cant the Police?

[Lou Girardin]

Actually, exaggerrated politeness is the best way to wind up miscreants.

[scumdog]

Actually, exaggerrated politeness is the best way to wind up miscreants.

And funny as a play when it all goes over their heads....

[Lou Girardin]

It seems we're going to have another thousand to love/hate.
Any bets on where most of them will be posted?
Traffic?

[Felicks]

I've read this thread with a on my face thinking about all the different views being proffered. And to be perfectly honest, all of them to some extent are true - I should know...

I could ramble on (and may do depending on how long this thread goes on for), but here's my overview:

Every organisation has its rat bags and dare I say it some are criminally minded, some don't give a damn and others are just gorillas in the corner waiting to piss someone off! At the end of the day they all have the ability to help bring an organisation to its knees just as easily as poor management. The reality is Police are no different.

Having said that, because of their role, I think Police are expected to be of at least average calibre when it comes to society, afterall they do sign an oath when becoming sworn. Therefore I fully support getting rid of the bad apples or charging them if appropriate.

Having said that, the "job" includes dealing with model citizens right down to outright animals that the majority of the public will never meet, in circumstances as varied as one can imagine. Over time those "animals" do have a derogitory effect on cops - just look at the numbers who constantly leave. And just like everyone else and despite the uniform (which is just that and nothing more), they also have good days and bad days.

KB tends to revolve around cops doing the traffic thing so I'll leave all the other stuff out at the moment (and there is heaps - believe me). Traffic is generally a thankless task but one that has to be done at some level. God help us if there were none...!! Some cops enjoy it but most do not. After the merger in 1992, there was no choice. As someone said earlier - most are there to catch real crooks and as most people will agree, most traffic stuff does not come into that catagory.

So, there is the odd one or two around who take delight at issuing a ticket and in doing so, rubs joe public up the wrong way. But the majority of others do not. Hence why warnings are still often given out - probably far more than the bosses would like I dare say.

If you have a bad experience, I would think you are in the minority, and like all business - it takes a lot of good service to make up for one incident of bad service.

(So much for my short overview....)