KBers as role models

[yungatart]

Do you ever think when you post your rant about useless ****** cagers and how they are ALL blind, decrepit, as thick as two planks, shouldn't be on the road etc etc, how that comes across to the other young ones on here? Do you ever stop and think that when it is the fifth time this week,that it has happened to you, there is a fair chance that you are doing something wrong! Do you ever think that maybe you could ride in a better position on the road, ride more defensively, and be more aware of those around you and the hazardsyou are likely to meet?
All I am trying to say is that when, day after day, there are posts on here about useless cagers and how it is ALWAYS ALL their fault, that you nearly got toppled from your perch, that we are sending the WRONG messages to young/newbie riders.We should always encourage defensive riding and calm thought, rather than revenge, anger and road rage. We should encourage all riders to look at what they could have done differently to avert a (potential) situation and to talk about it on this site.
It would be nice to occasionally read how because a rider was thinking ahead, looking ahead and riding defensively, they averted potential disaster long before it would have happened.
There is enough aggression out there on the road already. Motorcyclists ALWAYS need to remain clear headed, calm and rational - THAT IS HOW WE STAY ALIVE!!

[The_Dover]

I actively encourage young riders to take off as many wing mirrors as possible.

That way whenever some cunt hears a bike coming they are alert, if only cos they don't want to lose another wing mirror.

Fact is most car drivers are about as alert as Cheech and Chong after a hard night in Tijuana.

[Big Dave]

how that comes across to the other young ones on here?

I hope it makes them aware of the need for eternal vigilance and the potentialy fatal nature of the consequences.

[festus]

I'm sure a majority of KBers drive cars (cages), and are the better drivers for it since they ride.......I certainly am, so not all cage drivers suck!...

[Karma]

Soon as I get my own car I'll have a KB sticker on it.

"My other car's a bike" kinda thing.

[FROSTY:Me]

Hmm dover --kettle an pot situation innnit?
YT -I rarely comment on the cager population mostly cos its so commonplace up here for cagers to do dumb stuff. Honest Injun
I really don't think its sunk in to the younger guys-- the ol headstone story.
On the bikers headstone --Yep he had right of way pity the car driver diddnt realise that !!!!

[HDTboy]

I'm with you Crazy Lady

[froggyfrenchman]

We do have close calls all the time, its the nature of riding. But 90% of the time it is the cagers fault. I kick mirrors and also encourage others to do the same.

This thread dosnt have anything to do with master hxc's incident the other day has it?

[yungatart]

Dover, that is EXACTLY what I am talking about! Your energy would be far better directed at encouraging them to be more vigilant and less aggressive.
I also believe that not all car drivers are like that, but i am aware that a good number are - so we need to encourage the positive behaviour. It will lower our stress levels on the road and maybe give us a good profile out there.

[The_Dover]

Hmm dover --kettle an pot situation innnit?

Eh? If you mean Tijuana, then yeah ok. I've never hit a car in my life though, some crazy bitch did drive into me once though, as I was taking off from a green light facing her.

[Motu]

. But 90% of the time it is the cagers fault.

Yeah right.....It wasn't you on the black Ducati who pulled out in front of me on the dark wet morning the other day was it?.I'm sure I would be at fault seeing as I was in a 4x4.....maybe I should of plowed him under,get rid of one more ignorant sprotbike rider.

[froggyfrenchman]

I really don't think its sunk in to the younger guys-- the ol headstone story.
On the bikers headstone --Yep he had right of way pity the car driver diddnt realise that !!!!

Even if it had sunk in, we are all big kids here. If you are old enough to get a licence, you are old enough to make your own desisions.

Each rider is resopnsible for deciding to speed, lane split, kick in mirrors or pull wheelstands. If you are incapable with living with the consiquences of these actions choose to not do it.

None of us can be acused of clouding the good judgment of others on here.

If you cant make your own choices, get off the road

[Skyryder]

Do you ever think when you post your rant about useless ****** cagers and how they are ALL blind, decrepit, as thick as two planks, shouldn't be on the road etc etc, how that comes across to the other young ones on here? Do you ever stop and think that when it is the fifth time this week,that it has happened to you, there is a fair chance that you are doing something wrong! Do you ever think that maybe you could ride in a better position on the road, ride more defensively, and be more aware of those around you and the hazardsyou are likely to meet?
All I am trying to say is that when, day after day, there are posts on here about useless cagers and how it is ALWAYS ALL their fault, that you nearly got toppled from your perch, that we are sending the WRONG messages to young/newbie riders.We should always encourage defensive riding and calm thought, rather than revenge, anger and road rage. We should encourage all riders to look at what they could have done differently to avert a (potential) situation and to talk about it on this site.
It would be nice to occasionally read how because a rider was thinking ahead, looking ahead and riding defensively, they averted potential disaster long before it would have happened.
There is enough aggression out there on the road already. Motorcyclists ALWAYS need to remain clear headed, calm and rational - THAT IS HOW WE STAY ALIVE!!

If you didn;t make so much sense I'd be taking the piss out of you by now.

Good post Young........

I think most here ride reasonably sensibly. It's just that by the time we get to post our comments up here 'bout some cadger did this or that we have been converted from bikers to fisheremen and it all gets a bit exagerated. Well that's my excuse.

But on a serious note I'm reminded that in most cases I'm faster than the cage and I ride with the attitude that I can get killed just as easily when I'm in the right as I can when I'm in the wrong. That in it's myiad of applications would be my number one riding philosophy.

Skyryder


Stay sharp........stay cool...........stay alive.

[yungatart]

None of us can be acused of clouding the good judgment of others on here.

There is a kind of peer pressure here.. and it does sway the thinking of young ones.
I'm not denying that in 90% (an arbitrary figure) of acciidents involving car vs bike, it will be the cars fault. BUT there is often an indication that not all is as it should be, and that is where some on KB are lacking. Almost always, there is something that the rider could have done - if he/ she had been more aware/vigilant and noticed things. I don't think that advocating wing mirror removal or doors kicked in would be as effective as encouraging eternal vigilance and awareness.
I would rather be right and alive than dead right - so what if it costs you a little bit of time - your'e a bloody long time dead anyway..

[Badcat]

There is a kind of peer pressure here.. and it does sway the thinking of young ones.
I'm not denying that in 90% (an arbitrary figure) of acciidents involving car vs bike, it will be the cars fault. BUT there is often an indication that not all is as it should be, and that is where some on KB are lacking. Almost always, there is something that the rider could have done - if he/ she had been more aware/vigilant and noticed things. I don't think that advocating wing mirror removal or doors kicked in would be as effective as encouraging eternal vigilance and awareness.
I would rather be right and alive than dead right - so what if it costs you a little bit of time - your'e a bloody long time dead anyway..

KB is not a creche.