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Often didn't until they made them compulsary. Still here , with meat on fingers, after 40 years of it.Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback
But I HAVE seen the poor buggers in the spinal units and the neuro units, who crashed wearing all the gear there was. Reality is, if you crash on the road there's a good chance you may die. Gear or no gear, the magic's not strong enough.Keep on crashing, and it becomes a certainty.
*THAT'S* the inevitability that a lot of people don't want to face up to.
Fully qualified Sifter.
Mate....the guy didn't state his riding was inadequate, he's just being realistic.
What's wrong with thinking eventually you're gonna crash (your fault or not).?
Unmarked gravel....diesel spill....some other cunt taking you out...?
All of you 'long term experts' that have ridden for sooooo long without a crash, and the believe you'll never have one cause you don't bring it upon yourself through negative thoughts.....wake up.
Forum whore
What's wrong is that if you crash, there's a good chance you die, or are permanently injured. Magic gear notwithstanding.
What is bad is that when crashers crash (cos, being inevitable, they don't bother to ride safely), there's a risk that they may take me out too. The main reason why I keep away from KB rides. I don't really give a stuff if you crash or not. I just don't want to be around when it happens.
Oh, and BTW, my gravel is always unmarked. Part of not crashing - don't rely on other people to make it safe for you. Your safety is your responsibility.
Whatever, we have a difference of opinion.
I'm not going to waste any more time when your emphasis is only on proving your argument to be the "correct" one.
Fully qualified Sifter.
You're drifting from what I said.
Dress for the worst case scenario is what I'm saying.
Anything less is not good advice to someone asking for help on the matter.
Skill and ego wasn't the original question.
This be the truth.
I was brainwashed by a few KB members who emphasised that one day "I would crash" and that it happens to everyone. Well I have already had a crash on my GN 250 and the only injury I sustained was sore testicles from ramming into the tank on impact.
The cause of the crash was a front tyrre blow out on a corner which lead me into a ditch.
On my new bike I've had several hairy moments but controlled them. Not so long ago once instance occured where crashing was "invenitable" and in the few split seconds before impact with two other vehicles I thought "this is it, fuck and I'm not insured" and thought "fuck this, I'm not crashing" and at the very last minute controlled the situation and the only damage was to my nice clean underwear.
Morale is like the rule of "Look where you want to go" same applies for "Believe what you want to have happen".
And not to drag him into it, but its one thing that turned my mind around and I thank the man very much for it.
At the pub I was talking to Frosty about racing and how he said that he was going to win the championship. We yacked a bit and eventually it boiled down to him saying "Its all what you believe, I told myself I'm going to win the champinionship and I believe it". Guess what -- the bugger won it!
It just highlights my point.
Get well soon Frosty.
EDIT: When I crashed my GN I was wearing sneakers, jeans and a whooly jacket. For the record.
Scooter boy
Crasherfromwayback: appreciate the backup
All i was trying to say was i need decent gear in case i do come off. Yup, chances are i could still end up pretty munted even dead, but i think id be worse off with crappy/no gear. Im a cautious car driver, ill be an even more cautious bike rider (granted im a female and the car crash stats are in our favour) but sh*t happens and theres nothing i can really do about being in the wrong place at the wrong time except for consult my crystal ball
(signed in under brothers profile cant be bothered signing out and in all the time).
Fully qualified Sifter.
Sure is.
Until some docile cunt takes you out.
Dress to crash.
Don't listen to the "I've never crashed", nor plan to croud.
Forum whore
Well, tell y'what. When you can sell me some gear that can guarantee 100% that I can walk away from any crash at all with no injury, then I'll dress to crash.
Until then, I think I'll just keep on with the policy of not crashing.
But, to each his own. You crash as often as you wish, you're in Wellington and I'm in Auckland, so it's unlikely to affect me.
Fully qualified Sifter.
Actually mate...it highlights MY point.
Don't tell me....you dreamed you were gonna have a front tyre blowout on your GN and it happened right? You asked for it right?
And as far as not continuing the debate, it's not about right or wrong?
I thought that's why you chose to disagree with me in the first place....
All good.Crasherfromwayback: appreciate the backup
All i was trying to say was i need decent gear in case i do come off. Yup, chances are i could still end up pretty munted even dead, but i think id be worse off with crappy/no gear. Im a cautious car driver, ill be an even more cautious bike rider (granted im a female and the car crash stats are in our favour) but sh*t happens and theres nothing i can really do about being in the wrong place at the wrong time except for consult my crystal ball
(signed in under brothers profile cant be bothered signing out and in all the time).
My opinion here.
Whatever you choose, make sure it has armour.
Don't worry about loosing skin, I've lost plenty, in one instance I've scrapped my face along the ground at 30kmp/h and boy did it fucken hurt. The rest of the kids in the neighbourhood had a laugh for a few months though, "MELON FACE" was the popular nickname.
9 times out of 10 it'll grow back without scarring.
Fully qualified Sifter.
Good one mate.
I hope when you're riding in mid summer in your Speedo's up there, you at least burn the fuck out of your leg on a hot exhaust seeing as you're not going to crash.
You're so right.
Protective gear is for negative wossies.
That post has no relevance to whatever you said.
Again its my own opinion - give up already. Do you want a fucken medal or some shit?
Fully qualified Sifter.
No relevance?
YOU put your oar in about the 'bringing it upon yourself' crashing scene.
Then, you gave us a couple of examples where it 'wasn't your fault'.
Yet we should never dress as if we're 'expecting' to crash?, cause that makes us accidents waiting to happen???
Hello???
Medal?
Fucken aye I want one.
And a false chest.
The examples of my lack of responsibility / fault in those scenarios was falsely painted, you are absoloutely correct, sir. It was my fault and I accept absoloutely that I suffered consequences based on my own actions.
You are completely correct, again. I'm wrong in apparently implying that we as motorcyclist should never wear protective gear. I was also wrong in expecting that we will never encounter a situation which causes us to crash.
Medal, I think thats fair, here it is.
Happy now?
You are correct. You are right. Your opinion is gospel.
Here is your medal, sir.
Now you can go and crash in your wonderful protective gear, that I so admittly oppose the use of.
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