Waikato River - Now Privatised

[Blackbird]

As a matter of interest, the biggest polluter of the Waikato river is Hamilton City, followed by farm run-off. The biggest heavy metal polluter is the Wairakei geothermal power station although I believe that this has been reduced with the implementation of condensate re-injection. Kinleith pulp and paper mill where I'm based adds minimal chemicals but does add to the colour load through tannin in the tree bark. We've substantially reduced this in recent years. I'm passionate about water quality too, being a river user.

BTW, Tainui have been involved with the river for as long as I can remember and have always been officially involved with the consultative meetings we regularly run with other stakeholders such a local authorities, Fish and Game, Greenpeace etc.

[Devil]

Cripes, it seems like i'm behind the times.
To walk up Tarawera now, it costs $110. You need to be escorted.
No longer can you drive up there, unless you're with a tour company.

[sAsLEX]

if Tainui had control of the river through the last 50 odd years there would be no way that the Dairy companies would have been allowed to dump their sludge into it, not to mention the meat works or the hundreds of farmers dumping their chemical toxins and fertiliser run offs into the river.

Unless some money went to the right marae

[Ixion]

The Maori corporations are some of the most ruthless capitalists in the country.

They get away with shit that would have a PR thunderstorn aoround the ears of any other corporation, cos it's not politically correct to say uncomplimentary things about Maori stuff.

Roll on nationalising them. Communists don't do politically correct.

[Hitcher]

The Maori corporations are some of the most ruthless capitalists in the country.

They get away with shit that would have a PR thunderstorn aoround the ears of any other corporation, cos it's not politically correct to say uncomplimentary things about Maori stuff.

"Ruthless" isn't a term I'd use. My choice would be "sporadically competent". The highway is littered with the wreckage of Maori commercial ventures.

And they "get away with" very little. If anything the media is unduly harsh on dodgy Maori dealings, compared with the commercial competence of the indigenously-unencumbered.

[Quasievil]

The Maori corporations are some of the most ruthless capitalists in the country.

Really....... not arguing but you got examples?

They get away with shit that would have a PR thunderstorn aoround the ears of any other corporation

Not really anything remotely contentious within a Maori organisiation gets slammed in a major way, such as Maori TV.

cos it's not politically correct to say uncomplimentary things about Maori stuff.

Who cares about PC anyway, but one should not be rude and disrespectful

Roll on nationalising them. Communists don't do politically correct.

Eh ? whats that mean dude

[Str8 Jacket]

Cripes, it seems like i'm behind the times.
To walk up Tarawera now, it costs $110. You need to be escorted.
No longer can you drive up there, unless you're with a tour company.

Holy crap that's ridiculous! When I was a young'n it was free and we used to take our mountain bikes up to the top of the crater and slide all the way down, climb back up and start all over again. That would be a whole day's worth of fun! Though that was about 10-15 years ago...

[mstriumph]

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Roll on nationalising them. Communists don't do politically correct.

- erm - unfortunately history seems to indicate that Communists don't do ANYTHING correct ...........

[Ixion]

Really....... not arguing but you got examples?

Not really anything remotely contentious within a Maori organisiation gets slammed in a major way, such as Maori TV.

Who cares about PC anyway, but one should not be rude and disrespectful

Eh ? whats that mean dude

No 17 post in this thread? pakiri beach. rent increases in HC properties handed over to maori control. . Though perhaps "unconscionable" would be a better word.

Perhaps because it is so common?

Wasn't aware I was, unless failure to adulate be deemed rudeness. See what i mean about PC

Fairly simple I thought. Nationalise the resources handed over , preferably as part of a wider process to restore control of economic resources back to the workers. Which communists can do without worrying about being politically correct, because political correctness is not Marxist. Or socialist.

[Phurrball]

Small point. The 'People of NZ' don't 'own' anything. The crown has underlying radicle title to all of the land in NZ. The greatest interest anyone can have is a freehold title. Is anyone bitching about this?

What's wrong with Maori having a managment role in a resource of great historical and current importance to them?

Can't say I'm worried.

[Motu]

I am - they also have control of the flood plains....that's where I am,and a minority Pakeha in my area....

[SPman]

ROFLMAO - I havent laughed so much in ages, what can I say "WELL PUT", Labour is designed to screw up our future...

And National isn't??????

So who will control the Waikato, before it enters Tainui domain - or do they get the whole shebang back to Taupo?

[Devil]

Holy crap that's ridiculous! When I was a young'n it was free and we used to take our mountain bikes up to the top of the crater and slide all the way down, climb back up and start all over again. That would be a whole day's worth of fun! Though that was about 10-15 years ago...

I still have scars on my arms and hands from mountainbiking down the 4wd track just a little too fast. Before suspension was common! Took weeks for the last of the gravel to grow out of my hands.

[Str8 Jacket]

I still have scars on my arms and hands from mountainbiking down the 4wd track just a little too fast. Before suspension was common! Took weeks for the last of the gravel to grow out of my hands.

Oh ouch! I remember flying down the steepish part of that track one day and landing face first, scratched the whole front of my face from my forehead to my chin. That was before it was mandatory to wear a safety helmet, still dont think it would have helped anyway!

[Pixie]

The Maori corporations are some of the most ruthless capitalists in the country.

They get away with shit that would have a PR thunderstorn aoround the ears of any other corporation, cos it's not politically correct to say uncomplimentary things about Maori stuff.

Roll on nationalising them. Communists don't do politically correct.

And I thought "Political Correctness" was originally a communist idea