250 to 1000cc jump

[What?]

He would do just as well to move to Iraq and wear a t-shirt declaring that Mohammed was a camel shagger.

[6Chris6]

He would do just as well to move to Iraq and wear a t-shirt declaring that Mohammed was a camel shagger.

Nice quote for the 666th post

[Drunken Monkey]

yer, for most people it would be a baaaad choice. I know plenty of better riders than myself who have taken a gixxer thou for a run and come back saying its too fast. It can give experienced 600-900cc riders the heebie jeebies...White Trash has got a story or two about people test riding their demo gixxer thou and deciding against it.

[Marknz]

to give you an example, when I came back to riding in 2001 and bought the VTR250, that was going to do me for a long while. I did 16000km on it in the first three months and then got really crook. Doc told me it may have been the big C (turned out it wasn't, but then I still don't know what the problem was) and I decided feck this and wanted a bigger bike. Sold the 250 after a year and was without a ride for 6 months while I saved for the VTR1000 which I bought brand new in November 2002. Now I do of course have the benefit of a little bit of age and CDF on my side, and we'll all agree that the difference between a 1 litre V-twin and a 1 litre 4 cylinder bike is nothing but remarkable... but as long as you treat the thing with respect and try and learn bit by bit then you'll be just fine. I did most of my learning on the Wakefield Park race circuit north of Canberra (yes, the same one that is causing all the grief in Aussie racing circles right now, bunch of poofters ) ... I reckon that is the best environment to found out how the bike works and what your limits are, not what the bikes limits are.

So why do I have a GSXR1000 now? Well I ain't getting any younger and I figured that there was no time like the present. Yes, the feckin' thing scares the bejesus out of me out times, and I feel sorry for anyone who follows me up or down either side of the 'taka's in the coming months ( I probably frustrate the hell outa Jimbo750 just going over the Haywards ) 'cause they'll probably be either wanting to get past real quick or turn around and go home. But I'm giving it the respect that it deserves, and in time will get better and find my own limits on it. And I'll be at Manfield on the 30th to stretch things out a little more too. But hey, don't be fooled into thinking just 'cause I wear full race leathers with a speedhump and all the gear that I'm some super quick race dude. I wear them simply 'cause I have them from my bucket racing days in 'stralia, and i can't afford to pay another 2 grand to have a good road set like everyone else.

So maybe we should cut the guy some slack... there may be more to it than meets the eye. But if he does get the Gixxer thou and has a biggy in the early days, feel free to me down

[Racey Rider]

And who's going to insure the new 1000cc bike?

From the insurance companys point of view, he'ld be a Bad risk.
Been riding for six months,, Binned his first bike,, Now wants to jump on a 1000cc bike Thankyou for coming, There the door!".

And if he doesn't tell them he had this "OFF", and they find out when he next claims, (if he's still alive to do so), Then they just don't pay out. "Thankyou for paying all those premiums, But now that you need us, we've learnt that you had a previous incident you didn't tell us about. and if you'll read the fine print in our contract..... Have a nice day. There's the door."

[Lou Girardin]

Get the Gixxer and have bigger crashes. (Maybe just one crash)

[White trash]

Ummmmm, tough one but I know of a heap of guys in the States who have NEVER ridden bikes in their lives. Decide bikes look pretty cool, down the Honda dealership and get a brand new Blase delivered.

Spend three weeks teaching themselves to ride in a carpark then sit their licence and away they go.

Not sure how but the majority of these guys survive.

In the UK a few years back, a survey was conducted to find out exactly who was killing themselves on bikes. Turns out it wasn't the young yahoos on siper bikes. It was the 45 year old blokes who'd had a 15-20 year lay off for what ever reason, then got back into it on a new Gixxer or R1. It seems you can't ride these things like you ride a CB750F but no one was telling these "mature" riders.

Food for thought.

[Grumpy]

And who's going to insure the new 1000cc bike?

From the insurance companys point of view, he'ld be a Bad risk.
Been riding for six months,, Binned his first bike,, Now wants to jump on a 1000cc bike Thankyou for coming, There the door!".

And if he doesn't tell them he had this "OFF", and they find out when he next claims, (if he's still alive to do so), Then they just don't pay out. "Thankyou for paying all those premiums, But now that you need us, we've learnt that you had a previous incident you didn't tell us about. and if you'll read the fine print in our contract..... Have a nice day. There's the door."

Year, I think the insurance companies will pretty much make his decision for him. I binned my bike a few years ago and that bumped my premium up from $700 to $2300 with the company I was with at the time. The bike was a 1000cc.
And if they don't stop him, try...

[RiderInBlack]

Guy at work just crashed his 250. He reckons he not gonna buy another bike till his unrestricted comes through in 6 months, then he's gonna buy a GSXR1000. "I know how to ride now."

Hmmm, do I be cool, and say "yeah dude, thats a cool bike"

or

"mate you will be dead in a month making a change like that" and finish him off with a fatherly rant.

Interested to hear your thoughts

Jinx3d

Both: "yeah dude, thats a cool bike, BUT you could be dead in a month making a change like that."

What was the 250? I was luck to have the GSXR250. It set me up well for the VFR750. I am glad that I didn't go for the CBR1000FL straight from the GSXR250 for the following reasons:

1. The weight difference would have been too much. Just getting used to the difference between the VFR750's weight and the CBR1000FL has been enough to deal with (we won't even going into the difference between the GSXR250 and the CBR1000FL).
2. The power jump from the GSXR250 to the VFR750 was just OK. Put the VFR in to get a chain luber fit after the first week of owning it, and was given my old GSXR250 to run around on while the VFR got done. Hello, where's all the power gone The weight and power change to the CBR1000FL would have been too much.
3. My road usages have changed. When I got the VFR750, I was commuting innercity mainly (plus touring and rides). The CBR1000FL would not have been as suitable for that due to it's weight. Don't commute innercity now.
4. I would have missed out on all the enjoyment I had from riding the VFR750 (a top speed of 240KPM was quite fast enough).

By the way as far as speed goes, I have had my ass kicked on the CBR1000F by 600's around Puke (and by TS's 150 around the corners ). Nothing replaces exprience and training. Don't be in a hurry to "power up" until your ready.

Personaly I feel the jump from any 250 to the GSXR1000 is way too much. At least the CBR1000F's power is relitivily tame in comparison. Throttle up too quick on the GSXR1000 and he's going to have it on top of him

As for "I know how to ride now", that tells me he has a lot to learn yet (fu*k we all do). It like saying you can drive a F1 racing car, since you know how to drive now, having got your full lience in a Fiat Bambina 500

[Jackrat]

I know two guys that made a jump like this.Both of them pranged badly shortly afterwards.Who's taking the bets an what's the odds

[FROSTY:Me]

plain and simple really --if hes a young bloke or an older bloke --the jump is too much--Id talk running costs--tyres and stuff --If it was me looking at the thou -I'D buy it to prove everyone wrong.
You diddn't say what the prang was --the guys experience level and what 250 it is
Ive got a mate thats been poodling round on a 250 for a year now--um he got sprung after 15 years of riding without a bike licenc :spudwhat: e

[FROSTY:Me]

holey cow jackrat--1005 posts --ure an addict

[scroter]

I jumped from a GSXR250 to a bloody heavy TL1000S. Once I got used to the whole roll on roll off thing it was easy. But this sounds like the guys got the wrong attitude. Like he thinks hes a good rider just after hes crashed. Ive also ridden the Gixxer thou and didnt think it was overly powered but did think it was incredibly easy to ride. but it had 140 average speed round 65s written all over it. My TL to get that shift your arse and pull yourself over the tank. So not as much fun unless you speed your arse off. got the 600 now and even easier to ride. everyone should ride one of these at some stage brilliant bike for the road.

[Cajun]

Yeah yeah scroter thats why i got the 600 they are so much fun to ride on the road.

[magnum]

I jumped from a GSXR250 to a bloody heavy TL1000S. Once I got used to the whole roll on roll off thing it was easy. But this sounds like the guys got the wrong attitude. Like he thinks hes a good rider just after hes crashed. Ive also ridden the Gixxer thou and didnt think it was overly powered but did think it was incredibly easy to ride. but it had 140 average speed round 65s written all over it. My TL to get that shift your arse and pull yourself over the tank. So not as much fun unless you speed your arse off. got the 600 now and even easier to ride. everyone should ride one of these at some stage brilliant bike for the road.

600s rock eh scroter