Kawasaki 636 ZX6R

[LaggCity]

Tamed WTF, are you on drugs, they built a better bike with the C1. I cant recall me jumping off my B1 and getting on my C1 and thinking, oh well this isnt as quick or as agressice as the last model, what you talking shite for buggy? you ridden both extensively?
the C1 is a much more aggressive bike you can ride it much harder lets pluck one mod out to proof it, ahhhhhhh a slipper clutch! that put in there so you can ride it harder on corner entry without the back getting all out of shape.
not to mention the engine mods which are a plenty.

Sheesh Buggy you can talk some shite

Oh and if you want the superior C1 model 636 , buy mine its for sale!

Need to unload mine first but I am thinking about it.

[Toast]

Tamed WTF, are you on drugs, they built a better bike with the C1. I cant recall me jumping off my B1 and getting on my C1 and thinking, oh well this isnt as quick or as agressice as the last model, what you talking shite for buggy? you ridden both extensively?
the C1 is a much more aggressive bike you can ride it much harder lets pluck one mod out to proof it, ahhhhhhh a slipper clutch! that put in there so you can ride it harder on corner entry without the back getting all out of shape.
not to mention the engine mods which are a plenty.

Sheesh Buggy you can talk some shite

Oh and if you want the superior C1 model 636 , buy mine its for sale!

Actually I agree with Buggy, the B1 is a bloody animal.

The C1 is also pretty aggressive, but it was made a lot more user-friendly.

I reckon the B1 has more outright track potential, but most people will get much more out of the C1.

Both awesome bikes. C1 build quality one of the best I've seen.

[bugjuice]

you ridden both extensively?

enough..
talking fractions tho, not like any other would touch either..

[madboy]

Mine is the A1 model, 2002, first of the 636s. Right on the changeover from the 600 to 636. Visually identical to the 600s I think. Now try getting parts for that?!! Just as well it doesn't need fixing often!

A late-model 636 should annihilate an SV1000 on corners and in a straight line.

[Quasievil]

I hear yas but as track day weapon the C1 is a better bike, so dont know why you say its tamed down? user freindly WTF?
My gsx400r eats the B1 eh buggy?

[Toast]

I hear yas but as track day weapon the C1 is a better bike,

Why do you say this?

[LaggCity]

My impressions, feels extremely light in the front, do they normally have steering dampers or not like this one.
Handling was brilliant, very very quick and responsive, brakes were incredible make mine look like a pushbikes.

Didnt have much acceleration unil it hit around the 11k mark then holy hell , hanging on with white knuckles, really missed the torque of the big twin.

The one thing that was really strange was that I could not see the speedo or rev counter while in a normal riding position, the edge of the screen cuts right through the vision, had to put my head right down to see the readouts. I am not overly tall 5" 10" so I am wondering is this just this bike or is this an issue with the model.

[Quasievil]

Why do you say this?

Um, more horsepower, slipper clutch, better brakes need I go on?

[Quasievil]

My impressions, feels extremely light in the front, do they normally have steering dampers or not like this one.

Yes feel very light in the front, damper not really needed on the road, I never had a moment, if you want to trackday it or wheelie it then sure get one.

Handling was brilliant, very very quick and responsive, brakes were incredible make mine look like a pushbikes.

Yes, Yes, and Yes

Didnt have much acceleration unil it hit around the 11k mark then holy hell , hanging on with white knuckles, really missed the torque of the big twin.

Thats awesome eh, like a big two stroke

The one thing that was really strange was that I could not see the speedo or rev counter while in a normal riding position, the edge of the screen cuts right through the vision, had to put my head right down to see the readouts. I am not overly tall 5" 10" so I am wondering is this just this bike or is this an issue with the model.

No its a charachteristic of the model, dont let it put you off though, its really not a big deal after a week or so, infact you dont even think about it, Im 6ft and it wasnt a problem, just a little different at first .

[bugjuice]

you get used to it, and/or get a double-bubble screen, and that fixes the problem. And depending on how hard you ride, you could need a damper. I've had my suspension set up for me, and I've packed the head down more, which has solved most of the problems, but I think as my confidence gets back up, I'll need one

[MD]

The one thing that was really strange was that I could not see the speedo or rev counter while in a normal riding position, the edge of the screen cuts right through the vision, had to put my head right down to see the readouts. I am not overly tall 5" 10" so I am wondering is this just this bike or is this an issue with the model.

Hello, that's what I posted earlier "Some moaners went on about the 05 model having too low a screen, I didn't think so myself. It's now sorted on the 2006 model"
One week with the bike and you wont notice the screen. It only slightly obscures the top of rev counter from 13,000 to 15000 so what's the issue. At slow riding you aren't near this range anyway AND when you ARE in this range then only a nana would be sitting bolt upright. As soon as you give any bike the berries you automatically dip your head and tuck in. So, when you need to see the upper revs you can. If this still bugs you then get the 06 screen or the kawasaki aftermarket double bubble screen.

[Toast]

Um, more horsepower, slipper clutch, better brakes need I go on?

More weight to negate the extra horsepower and better brakes. Slipper clutch is only needed on a 600 if you're riding in the wet and cock up your downshift big time.

I still reckon that the more aggressive geometry and riding position of the '04 makes it more suited to the track...but we'll probably never know.

[Quasievil]

More weight to negate the extra horsepower and better brakes. Slipper clutch is only needed on a 600 if you're riding in the wet and cock up your downshift big time.

I still reckon that the more aggressive geometry and riding position of the '04 makes it more suited to the track...but we'll probably never know.

errr no not really, 04 had 91.9kw for 161kg, 05 has 100kw at 164kg.

Sliiper clutch is not good only n the wet at all, it also very helpful in rapid downchanges in the dry, ever heard of vapour lock or accidentally changing down one to many gears,or rear wheel hop? this can cause greif in wet or dry, not to mention hard braking and changing down while entering a corner on the lean.

Also (seen your not listening) the 05 has a newer cylinder head larger valves new cams this boosts performance over the 03.
new fairing design gives the bike an additional 7kw at 250kmph.
the suspension linkage ratios are improved on the 05 which has cured the ride harshness of the 03, this has improved its on the track performance.
When you look at the factory spec Torque and power curve the 05 is superior (a better performing bike)
basically you can some it up by saying it has more power and now chassis improvements to let you use it.

BTW I have owned both bikes, I have ridden both bikes on the track and hard, I know what Im talking about, I dont understand the angle of your arguement really, I mean the newer model is an improvement on the last one, every single report I have read says this also. so what gives?

[cowpoos]

errr no not really, 04 had 91.9kw for 161kg, 05 has 100kw at 164kg.

Sliiper clutch is not good only n the wet at all, it also very helpful in rapid downchanges in the dry, ever heard of vapour lock or accidentally changing down one to many gears,or rear wheel hop? this can cause greif in wet or dry, not to mention hard braking and changing down while entering a corner on the lean.

Also (seen your not listening) the 05 has a newer cylinder head larger valves new cams this boosts performance over the 03.
new fairing design gives the bike an additional 7kw at 250kmph.
the suspension linkage ratios are improved on the 05 which has cured the ride harshness of the 03, this has improved its on the track performance.
When you look at the factory spec Torque and power curve the 05 is superior (a better performing bike)
basically you can some it up by saying it has more power and now chassis improvements to let you use it.

BTW I have owned both bikes, I have ridden both bikes on the track and hard, I know what Im talking about, I dont understand the angle of your arguement really, I mean the newer model is an improvement on the last one, every single report I have read says this also. so what gives?

he rides a honda...he's too innocent bro...

[Toast]

errr no not really, 04 had 91.9kw for 161kg, 05 has 100kw at 164kg.

Sliiper clutch is not good only n the wet at all, it also very helpful in rapid downchanges in the dry, ever heard of vapour lock or accidentally changing down one to many gears,or rear wheel hop? this can cause greif in wet or dry, not to mention hard braking and changing down while entering a corner on the lean.

Also (seen your not listening) the 05 has a newer cylinder head larger valves new cams this boosts performance over the 03.
new fairing design gives the bike an additional 7kw at 250kmph.
the suspension linkage ratios are improved on the 05 which has cured the ride harshness of the 03, this has improved its on the track performance.
When you look at the factory spec Torque and power curve the 05 is superior (a better performing bike)
basically you can some it up by saying it has more power and now chassis improvements to let you use it.

BTW I have owned both bikes, I have ridden both bikes on the track and hard, I know what Im talking about, I dont understand the angle of your arguement really, I mean the newer model is an improvement on the last one, every single report I have read says this also. so what gives?

Most of the above is marketing spiel. Especially the power claims. Most independent comparisons showed very little difference at the wheel.

I agree with the better aeros though, it's noticeable from the first ride.

Suspension is less harsh, agreed.

Most reports said that the model is a huge improvement because they liked the looks more, and said that it's a far better road bike, which I agree with. I still think the '03/'04 is potentially a better track bike.

I haven't ridden both as much as you have, but have ridden each more than once, and for a decent distance.

My opinion, reasons already stated above. Geometry more aggressive, lighter, quicker turning.