Medical Question

[Indoo]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3675226a10,00.html

Just wondering if theres any resident experts that can explain a condition that appears to make drivers run from the scenes of crashes and hide from the Police in bushes. Especially given that he didn't need any medical attention and didn't even see a doctor till the day after.

I would have thought it was because he was pissed worthless loser whose only thought was to save his own arse.

He crashed into a young family, putting a woman in hospital fighting for her life. If she does survive she will be left seriously brain damaged. Her husband and young daughter are sitting by her bedside going through god knows what. Meanwhile this pathetic peice of trash has already returned to work, hired a top lawyer and is trying to shake off any responsiblity for the lives he has destroyed.

The victims side.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10382795

[Edbear]

Hope they throw the book at him!

[Big Dave]

I think you only need to read the 'hiding in bushes' part to make a character judgement on one who formerly put himself forward as honorable enough to enforce the laws.
Hope the jury finds likewise.

[crashe]

If he gets done like a dogs dinner in court and sent down...
He will then say he should not have been charge throu the courts.. that he should be dealt with by his own people...
Well thats what Donna Huata reckons... so why not this guy as well.



Personally he has no excuse for running and leaving the scene of the accident... He has been trained in the past as a police officer.... surely all that training means that you help at accidents no matter what...

I say throw the book at him....


But we must wait to see what evidence the court is told and what the judge decides should happen to him.




I know of a accident where the driver crossed the line.... saying he fell asleep at the wheel.
The people in the other vehicle, there injuries were:
Driver - Both legs smashed up - still recovering
Front passenger - Lost a leg and other leg smashed up - have to use a wheelchair for most occassions for the rest of her life.
Passenger back of the van lying down at the time of the hit - Operation to her spleen and still having inside problems.
Passenger sitting up back of van - cuts and bruises.

Verdict from the courts - slap on the wrist, small fine and short term loss of license.

This happened over a year ago. The driver admitted it at first and then got a lawyer and changed his mind. He sells cars and needs his license to drive.
The victims lives will never be the same again.... yet they got nothing but a few dollars for damages.... wopeee shit.

I believe it is time the judges gave out harsher penalties....

[onearmedbandit]

They should make him wait by the womans side, help understand the grief, pain, misery, suffering he has inflicted upon an innocent family. (this takes into account that he is actually guilty of serious driving charges). Then throw the book at the fucker.

[RT527]

I wasnt home from work in time to be on the call out for this incident, also B4 i go further, I am only speculating and it is only an opinion of what I`ve experianced as this case is b4 the courts .
But I hope the bastard is found guilty, To say he thought that the tempory lane was a passing lane is utter bollocks, I travel that road daily and even b4 they put the cones out to make single lanes and dropped the speed to 50, it was painfully obvious that it was just like any other 2 lane highway in our country.
hehe also the road would have had good visibility as the moon was rather full cause when I turned off at the bombays(even though it was closed.....just showed them id and they let me through)I then went the Kaiaua/Miranda Rd and i had excellant visibility and an excellant ride as all the other traffic was being diverted through Te Kauwhata
so the roads were virtually empty.......o and did I say that all the cops in the area were at the accident, lol didnt make a diff to me ....I`m a nana and dont go over the limit unless I`m passing.
Anyways this guy needs to have a judge appoint personal responsibility on this guy, he chose to drive drunk ...he chose to pull out and pass.....he chose to run from the scene....injury or not....thought the police were trained officers who were chosen cause they didnt freak out in tough times?.
So why cant the justice system treat these guys like the Idiots they are and charge them with attempted murder or murder....what they are saying is if you go and shoot someone with a gun it can t be murder cause you were drunk, so it can only be manslaughter, huh go figure , a 4 wd Beemer is a pretty big weapon.
thing is he will prolly drink and drive again so wont have learnt anything by all this.
He is a coward hiding behind excuses ........ He will get his day .

[Edbear]

So why cant the justice system treat these guys like the Idiots they are and charge them with attempted murder or murder....what they are saying is if you go and shoot someone with a gun it can t be murder cause you were drunk, so it can only be manslaughter, huh go figure , a 4 wd Beemer is a pretty big weapon.
thing is he will prolly drink and drive again so wont have learnt anything by all this.
He is a coward hiding behind excuses ........ He will get his day .

You make a good point, one that has been floated before and should be highlighted! HE CHOSE TO DRIVE AFTER DRINKING, KNOWING WHAT IT MEANS! At the very least, drunk driving should be a mandatory manslaughter charge in the case of an accident causing death or a charge similar to attempted manslaughter in this case. Driving with reckless disregard for the lives and welfare of others is inexcuseable, (drunk or not), IMO!

[Switch]

I hope he gets done I hope she gets better, sad story

[onearmedbandit]

You choose to drive a vehicle intoxicated on the road, you didn't just 'find' yourself behind the wheel. I say that is premeditated (sp?) so charge them with murder. Driving sober, reach down to adjust your floormat and have a crash causing death, manslaughter is okay for that. But choosing to get behind the wheel when drunk, you made your bed now lie in it fucker.

[marty]

I know of a accident where the driver crossed the line.... saying he fell asleep at the wheel.
The people in the other vehicle, there injuries were:
Driver - Both legs smashed up - still recovering
Front passenger - Lost a leg and other leg smashed up - have to use a wheelchair for most occassions for the rest of her life.
Passenger back of the van lying down at the time of the hit - Operation to her spleen and still having inside problems.
Passenger sitting up back of van - cuts and bruises.

Verdict from the courts - slap on the wrist, small fine and short term loss of license.

This happened over a year ago. The driver admitted it at first and then got a lawyer and changed his mind. He sells cars and needs his license to drive.
The victims lives will never be the same again.... yet they got nothing but a few dollars for damages.... wopeee shit.

I believe it is time the judges gave out harsher penalties....

similar thing happened in cambridge on either xmas eve or boxing day a few years ago, driver has no recollection of how it happened, killed 3 or 4 of her friends in the car. found guilty, appealed, got off scot free. sure she has to live with it blah blah blah, but no consequence?

[metric]

running away & hiding like a coward...

pathetic.

poor woman - that's her life (& family's lives) potentially written off

fkn jerk.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Not much more i can add to what others have said.Just one thing if he is an ex cop he will have freinds inside so with a bit of luck he will get his.

[Skyryder]

Just wondering if theres any resident experts that can explain a condition that appears to make drivers run from the scenes of crashes and hide from the Police in bushes. ]

The condition is known by the yellow streak that is associated with the spine.

It afflicts those with low moral courage and high intellectual capacity to blame others to justify their actions. Some allude to perpetual denial that they are at fault while others are known profess their profound sorrow only at a time when it suites them i.e. usually just prior to sentening in the hope that their self centered remorse will assist in a reduced punishment.



Skyryder

[kevie]

I agree about the law needing to toughen up .... said it to my MP and others for ages.

I recon drunk driving should be attempted manslaughter or manslaughter... they KNOW the risks in driving drunk.
If I get a gun and aim it at someones head in jest and it happens to be loaded its manslaughter........ driving drunk is no different.

I told MP NZ need to change the legal system, bring in MINIMUM sentances not the recomended/maximums like they have. A magistrate can then extend the sentance but not reduce it ... and for serious offences and second/repeat offenders....NO PAROLE !!

And make prisons less atractive, no flash meals, no grievance claims, no Celphones, computers, privelages.

After all ... these people have violated peoples rights and they insist on retaining theirs ..... they should only have the 'right to the basics of life' eg ... sustaining (not flash) meals, medical treatment if appropriate, clothing and warmth.
Make them work in there too, no work no meal..... bet the crime rate would drop if that all happened.

[Ixion]

Should we extend the same tough treatment to other road crimes, when death results ? Speeding? dangerous driving? If someone dies in an accident and one party was exceeding the speed limit, should they too face manslaughter charges (murder is legally impossible). If not, why not? (Other than the "I do one of those, but not the other" argument) . Not taking a position either way, just seeing if people are willing to take their arguments to their logical conclusion.