Revenue Gathering aka "Road Safety"

[Menial]

wouldn't sign posting known black spots be cheaper and more effective???

[k14]

Sure, but how much money would that give them??

[sAsLEX]

1.We have a tiered license system at the mo, why not extend it?? Those who complete and excel, not just turn up to, advanced driver training get like a class 1+ or something. They do it in racing to stop morons endangering there peers.


2.Same deal with vehicles, certain classes certain speeds, if you want to go to this hassle of getting your vehicle certified for an extra 10k or so I am sure you would go the the extra hassle of finding which roads your new limit applied to. Example -school areas everyone has to go 40, but on stretches where a good car (one designed to do more than commute the family) is capable of greater speeds it can do so with a properly licensed driver(see 1), ie Waikato expressways etc, within reason. Sure this would cost a little to set up regulate, but to pay for that would be chaeper than a myriad of tickets!

[marty]

(one designed to do more than commute the family) is capable of greater speeds it can do so with a properly licensed driver(see 1), ie Waikato expressways etc, within reason. Sure this would cost a little to set up regulate, but to pay for that would be chaeper than a myriad of tickets!

ahhh but what about the family commuter car that is also a performance car? would that be included? maybe only when only the driver is present - when the kids are in the back seat the speed would be limited. hey i know - sensors in the rear seats to sense child-like life forms, that when activated limit the speed of the hsv/xr6-8/bmw/audi/mercedes/vw/etc etc etc.

of course any volvo and it's passengers would be allowed on these roads at these speeds.

[marty]

well at least i'm getting my speed fix in the air at the moment - no cops, no speed limits, great fun.

it is costing a bit though .....

[Skyryder]

What part of the idea do you like.
(1) Stopping on the side of the road to use a Cell Phone,
(2) or reporting an incident using *555

I am well aware of the problems that a motocyclist has in having to use a cell phone and also the difficulties that this would cause in finding a suitable place to pull over. One of the things that I have noticed not only on this forum but others is that we are powerless when some driver has nearly knocked us off or in some way has endanged our life. At such times doing nothing can have an adverse effect on how we ride. At least potting the sod with *555 hopefully will have some kind of calming effect if nothing else. OK so there mabe some of us out there may think that this approach "is not cricket." OK I can live with that but shoving a knife in some assholes back has at times ressurected the soul in me. Maybe with a bit of luck the Police may investigate the incident further but I would not hold my breath.

Skyryder

[What?]

...call *555 for EVERY incident of law breaking on the road...

I called *555 once, then found out the bastards charge you for the privelege. I travel 45 Km to work, and 45 back home. If I called *555 every time I saw something illegal, driving to work would cost me more than my days wages.

[dangerous]

*555........ does it actually achieve any thing? The police cant do a single thing about a call to that number as they have to witness the wrong doing, I just dont get the point of it all.

On more than one ocasion over a few years I have seen in my reaview mirror some twat stumbling for there phone and ringing out (which I thought was ment to be a silly thing to do while driving) after I have passed them for what ever reason Yet I have never heard anything from the coppers............... Well there was this one time when someone potted me for not waiting at the stuck railway crossing signals with barrier so I was said to have turned down a side street and then driven up onto the lines and back down to the crossing and continue on my merry way :spudwhat: Man now that would just be dangerous.... and I'm not dangerous now am I?

Anyhow I told the copper that rang me up that I had no idea what he was talking about and he said "ohh ok, well dont do it again" and that was that

[spudchucka]

*555........ does it actually achieve any thing? The police cant do a single thing about a call to that number as they have to witness the wrong doing, I just dont get the point of it all.

*555 calls often get transmitted over the radio as soon as they are received, especially if the caller is still following the bad driver and they are willing to make a formal complaint, ie: Be a witness in Court. If the caller is not willing to be a witness then all the cops can do is question the driver about the incident, if they admit it then they can be charged, if they deny it there is nothing the cops can do without the witness.

If the caller stays on the line the dispatcher will try and get a car in position to intercept the bad driver, it happens every day. If the caller makes the call but then hangs up trying to find the vehicle becomes a needle in a haystack situation.

So if you are going to use *555 be prepared to stay on the line and be prepared to go to Court as a witness. If you are not prepared to do these two things then don't whinge about the police not doing anything, (that comment is not directed at anyone so don't jump down my neck OK).

[toads]

I reckon there should be the old system of traffic police and regular police, then there wouldn't be this scenario of police time being taken up with "revenue gaining", personally I feel they in the most part do a good job, the cool speed display signs ( the ones that show how fast you are going all lit up on a digital screen) are the most effective detterents for me to slow down, there's no revenue collecting involved with that, it helps when you have a speedo out of whack due to bigger /smaller tyres than you should have ( speaking about my van here). Personally I think the motoring costs, rego, wof, insurance etc are fair enough, the petrol costs and speed camera's quite frankly piss me off, that's just filling the govt's coffers, so they can make stupid financial descisions like the kyoto protocol etc, so we can research over and over the farting of cows and sheep! rather than fixing our roads

[James Deuce]

I called *555 once, then found out the bastards charge you for the privelege. I travel 45 Km to work, and 45 back home. If I called *555 every time I saw something illegal, driving to work would cost me more than my days wages.

It should be rebated when you complete the complaint.

[James Deuce]

*555 calls often get transmitted over the radio as soon as they are received, especially if the caller is still following the bad driver and they are willing to make a formal complaint, ie: Be a witness in Court. If the caller is not willing to be a witness then all the cops can do is question the driver about the incident, if they admit it then they can be charged, if they deny it there is nothing the cops can do without the witness.

If the caller stays on the line the dispatcher will try and get a car in position to intercept the bad driver, it happens every day. If the caller makes the call but then hangs up trying to find the vehicle becomes a needle in a haystack situation.

So if you are going to use *555 be prepared to stay on the line and be prepared to go to Court as a witness. If you are not prepared to do these two things then don't whinge about the police not doing anything, (that comment is not directed at anyone so don't jump down my neck OK).

It works too. My wife dobbed in a woman driving slowly and erratically over the Rimutaka hill road. The Featherston cop pulled them over at the bottom of hill on the Featherston side. Didn't need the wife as a witness because they drove over the wrong bridge (there are two bridges there so the were on the wrong side of the road!) on the other side right in front of the cop.

It is an excellent system for pinging potentially lethal driving behaviour.

[merv]

wouldn't sign posting known black spots be cheaper and more effective???

As for signage, I love those "Accident Area" signs - like says to you as you approach just hang on and it will soon be the right place to have an accident.

So black spot is a bit like that too - crash here, everyone else does.

[What?]

It should be rebated when you complete the complaint.

Yeah, except it's telecom making the buck. I won't ever call it again - if I see something so bad I feel a need to report it, it will be 111.

[MD]

It works too. My wife dobbed in a woman driving slowly and erratically over the Rimutaka hill road. The Featherston cop pulled them over at the bottom of hill on the Featherston side. Didn't need the wife as a witness because they drove over the wrong bridge (there are two bridges there so the were on the wrong side of the road!) on the other side right in front of the cop.

It is an excellent system for pinging potentially lethal driving behaviour.

Thats scary. We all fly over those one-way only bridges and there's limited view ahead of whats coming the other way- mind you, on a one way bridge you wouldn't expect to have to check what is comin at ya.
Full marks to you Wife, she probably saved a life a mile further on .