Tighter rules for overseas drivers.

**Street Gerbil** · 3rd June 2006, 21:13

Originally Posted by IronicCapers

The solution can be taken a step forward with biometrics with a world wide database available.

You mean kinda big brother watches for you everywhere sort of thing?

**IronicCapers** · 3rd June 2006, 21:19

Originally Posted by happy_gerbil

You mean kinda big brother watches for you everywhere sort of thing?

Thats overrated in exaggerated point of arguement. Its a way for officers to know who there dealing with. It doesnt have to be made loggable entries but it could eventuate to that if the need arises. Its another tool against terrorists and criminals

**Lou Girardin** · 6th June 2006, 17:01

Originally Posted by IronicCapers

Thats overrated in exaggerated point of arguement. Its a way for officers to know who there dealing with. It doesnt have to be made loggable entries but it could eventuate to that if the need arises. Its another tool against terrorists and criminals

Extremely valuable for NZ then?

**Macktheknife** · 6th June 2006, 17:21

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Extremely valuable for NZ then?

Dont you know we are the largest depository of terrorists/fundamentalists/other assorted nutters in the known world? Iran, Syria, all those other places are just our regional representatives. NZ rules as the terrorist breeding centre of the universe!

OK so there is no actual evidence of that but it doesnt mean it isnt true.

Me, I still say that until digital data storage becomes about 1000 times more secure than it is, it is too risky to have this kind of information in a database for ANY reason.

**IronicCapers** · 6th June 2006, 20:26

Originally Posted by Macktheknife

Dont you know we are the largest depository of terrorists/fundamentalists/other assorted nutters in the known world? Iran, Syria, all those other places are just our regional representatives. NZ rules as the terrorist breeding centre of the universe!

OK so there is no actual evidence of that but it doesnt mean it isnt true.

Me, I still say that until digital data storage becomes about 1000 times more secure than it is, it is too risky to have this kind of information in a database for ANY reason.

LOL where there are computers there are hackers. Its possible to create a new internet system that is separate from the public systems.

Unfortunatly computer security has never changed. If you want secure databases you have to have longer codes. But what person wants to continuesly put in 128bit codes in(very long and no pattern).
e.g. wer1r2!*&^*&%%#jhgJGYYg18127@@&*1 (plz note only part of the code)

Imagine putting that in. It can never be totally secure. But there are ways to make it harder. Although there are computer geniuses that can do anything they put their minds to.

**mstriumph** · 6th June 2006, 20:49

Originally Posted by Ixion

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reliance on photgraphs as a certain form of identification is vastly overrated.

microchip 'em mebbe?

barcode tatooed on forehead?

eartag?

wat?

**scracha** · 6th June 2006, 21:47

Originally Posted by IronicCapers

LOL where there are computers there are hackers. Its possible to create a new internet system that is separate from the public systems.

Ala Google?

Originally Posted by IronicCapers

Unfortunatly computer security has never changed. If you want secure databases you have to have longer codes. But what person wants to continuesly put in 128bit codes in(very long and no pattern).
e.g. wer1r2!*&^*&%%#jhgJGYYg18127@@&*1 (plz note only part of the code)

Course it's changed? That's not how encryption works anyway. You can put in a 10 letter password and it normally gets encrypted via a one way hashing function into a "long" code before being stored. For example, a MySQL password hash is 41 bytes long but you don't type in a 41 letter password.

Most security flaws are through user stupidity, phishing or having physical access to a machine than the "hackers" who cause buffer overflows or sit cracking passwords over the Internet myth.

**scracha** · 6th June 2006, 21:56

Originally Posted by gixermike

so what I really need to do is

1) Contact licence registration in uk and say I lost my licence...pay for duplicate keep both
2) Sit multiple guess NZ road code test
3) Give up one licence copy
4) Use 2nd copy when back in uk/europe, or when stopped for speeding...
sounds good to me. ;-)

Lol, I've already got 2 UK licences.

Also the NZQA point is spot on. 4 year UK hons degree + 1 year postgrad + 9 years commercial experience = 3 year ordinary kiwi degree ? I don't think so. Fuckers. Government paying lip service to skills shortage and wondering why peeps are p!ssing off to Australia?

Still to sit the scratch and sniff tests (don't forget you get to sit one for the car and bike).

I think the flaw with this is that the fascists contact the DVLA back in the UK so policeman plod will throw the book at you when you whip out your old license. Also, if you look closely there is an issue number on your license.

Better plan is to get kiwi citizenship, re-enter the UK on your kiwi passport. When plod stops you for doing 110mph on the A1 then apologise and say that you're a kiwi and got a bit confused between the MPH and KMPH thing. Policeman plod will wave you off due to it being too much hassle to deal with johnny bloody foreigner.

**IronicCapers** · 6th June 2006, 22:04

Yes your quite right but i was merely stating the fact that it can become very complicated to ensure privacy. Imagine that there is a separate system that has its own devices but the fail safe to ensure that the devices that have the special ability to logon onto the system are stolen then the device must be activated with a biometric eye/print scan along with a code of equal power to ensure a solid protection. Then the actual construction of the device that it can be made to order and the clearances the devices are given can be brought and sold by corrupted peoples and or software.

Basically what im saying is that security is only as good as the people that moniter, regulate, create and use the system.

How do you make an impartial moderator that is able to stick to the lines without being corrupted or bribed?
Anything is able to be broken you just have to find the weakest link to exploit the system.

**scracha** · 6th June 2006, 22:15

Originally Posted by IronicCapers

Basically what im saying is that security is only as good as the people that moniter, regulate, create and use the system.

Spot on, basically we're saying the same thing. I really don't understand the peeps with their heads in the clouds going "I've got nothing to hide" who are quite happy to hand over fingerprints, DNA, retina scans, credit card numbers, etc. Identity theft is ridiculously easy and all these "centralised" databases will only make it easier.

http://www.theregister.com/2006/06/01/ey_hotels_laptop/
The above is just typical.

**Lou Girardin** · 7th June 2006, 10:04

Originally Posted by Macktheknife

Dont you know we are the largest depository of terrorists/fundamentalists/other assorted nutters in the known world? Iran, Syria, all those other places are just our regional representatives. NZ rules as the terrorist breeding centre of the universe!

OK so there is no actual evidence of that but it doesnt mean it isnt true.

Like George Dubya's WMD?

All we breed are beneficiaries. But admittedly they do terrorise my pay packet.

**mstriumph** · 7th June 2006, 14:42

Originally Posted by scracha

Lol, I've already got 2 UK licences...................................... Policeman plod will wave you off due to it being too much hassle to deal with johnny bloody foreigner.

having two passports is also sooooo useful

let's see now, which nationality am i TODAY??