$2,400 for Hurt and Suffering

[JimO]

WINJA is a good name for you im shure that you are a model employee.. by the way dont you ever get sick of saying "do you want fries with that"

[Ixion]

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Both employers and employees need to be aware of their rights, and enter a contractual employnment relationship with their eyes open. ,,

And, in the blue corner , we have an executive of a multibillion dollar international corporation , with a well staffed HR department and a Ivy League law firm on permanent retainer.

In the red corner we have a 16 year old girl who REALLY REALLY wants her first job. With WINZ telling her if she doesn't get it they'll cut her benefit.

They're both reading the employment contract, to ensure that it's fair to both parties.

Anyone see anything wrong with this picture ? Anyone ever tried to get a single word changed in one of those international corporate standard contracts?

[WINJA]

WINJA is a good name for you im shure that you are a model employee.. by the way dont you ever get sick of saying "do you want fries with that"

SHOWS WHAT YOU KNOW RETARD, THERES A GOOD CHANCE IM DOING BETTER THAN YOU.

I BELIEVE IN WORKERS RIGHTS AND I THINK ITS TIME THE WORM TURNED , YEAH IF YOUR AN EMPLOYER YOULL BE SHITTING BRICKS WHEN THE UNIONS ARE IN FULL SWING AGAIN .

IDB GO FUCK YOURSELF

[scumdog]

SHOWS WHAT YOU KNOW RETARD, THERES A GOOD CHANCE IM DOING BETTER THAN YOU.

I BELIEVE IN WORKERS RIGHTS AND I THINK ITS TIME THE WORM TURNED , YEAH IF YOUR AN EMPLOYER YOULL BE SHITTING BRICKS WHEN THE UNIONS ARE IN FULL SWING AGAIN .

IDB GO FUCK YOURSELF

Join the pigs 'cos the public is your boss and you don't have to take any notice of them and they can't sack you.

[Jantar]

... Anyone ever tried to get a single word changed in one of those international corporate standard contracts?...

Sure have. 9 members on our team at work (well 8 at the moment until we make another appointment), and each of us has a slightly different contract. Different salary, different leave provisions, different super provisions etc.

Negotiation is just that. If the employer decides that you are the best person for the job then they will negotiate to ensure that you are the one they employ.

[JimO]

Thats nice winja i hope you are doing real good but you come across a a immature spoilt brat resorting to abuse and having tantrums ..so here is some free advise from someone who left school at 15, owns a couple of houses, 3 late model cars, a classic V8, and a couple of bikes, has been self employed for over 20 years...... GROW UP YOU BIG BABY......

[Mr. Peanut]

Thats nice winja i hope you are doing real good but you come across a a immature spoilt brat resorting to abuse and having tantrums ..so here is some free advise from someone who left school at 15, owns a couple of houses, 3 late model cars, a classic V8, and a couple of bikes, has been self employed for over 20 years...... GROW UP YOU BIG BABY......

FFS you were employed in the 70's, when workers got a fair wage and had rights. Houses cost SFA, then you managed to avoid getting screwed by the employee contract act by becoming self employed.

I can hardly see how you appreciate the average workers situtation.

10.25 an hour??? 3 weeks holiday a year?

Thanks for the advice.

[JimO]

well actually i started work in 1975 as a apprentice and was paid $39 a week when i came out of my time i was getting $175 a week. what a fortune. You cunts that dribble on about employers and conditions and 3 weeks holiday arnt forced to stay, if you dont like it get another job (WINJA could try burger king) You spend a big part of your life working why not be happy doing it. The unions arnt going to save you you have to do it yourself. No one handed me anything i have worked for it and no one is going to hand you anything either

[JimO]

Mr Peanut i see that you are 19, when i was 19 i was earning about $150 a week what are you on, i also only had 3 weeks hols a year, houses didnt cost sfa they were just as expensive as they are now for our wages, i became self employed to get ahead not to beat the employment contracts act. You guys need to get over this BOO HOO POOR ME attitude. perhaps getting the cane at school may have helped or even a good smack from your parents

[Mr. Peanut]

$150 a week in what year? and for how many hours work?

$311 a week aint exactly bad for an apprentice...

[JimO]

1979 that was pretty much 90% of a tradesmans wage

[Mr. Peanut]

Thats $710, You didnt have to pay GST either. And housing cost were cheaper.

I'm on $500 before tax for 50 hours work.

[stanko]

Thats $710, You didnt have to pay GST either. And housing cost were cheaper.

I'm on $500 before tax for 50 hours work.

Minimum wage in NZ is 10.25 so you should ask for the other $12.50

[stanko]

SHOWS WHAT YOU KNOW RETARD, THERES A GOOD CHANCE IM DOING BETTER THAN YOU.

I BELIEVE IN WORKERS RIGHTS AND I THINK ITS TIME THE WORM TURNED , YEAH IF YOUR AN EMPLOYER YOULL BE SHITTING BRICKS WHEN THE UNIONS ARE IN FULL SWING AGAIN .

IDB GO FUCK YOURSELF

The worm will never turn, cos the employers are just that , the employer

WINJA=0.8 Labour Units

[WINJA]

Thats nice winja i hope you are doing real good but you come across a a immature spoilt brat resorting to abuse and having tantrums ..so here is some free advise from someone who left school at 15, owns a couple of houses, 3 late model cars, a classic V8, and a couple of bikes, has been self employed for over 20 years...... GROW UP YOU BIG BABY......

YUP AS I THOUGHT YOUR NOT DOING THAT WELL FOR YOUR AGE, YOU STARTED IN A TIME WHEN IT WAS EASY TO THRIVE AND THATS ALL YOU GOT TO SHOW FOR IT. LOOKED AT YOUR PROFILE IF THOSE ARE THE 2 BIKES YOUR TALKING ABOUT I WOULDNT BE BOASTING IF I WERE YOU, DUNEDIN AYE HOW MUCH ARE YOUR HOUSES WORTH , ADDED TOGETHER THEYD BE WORTH FAR LESS THAN MY AUCKLAND DUMP , I GOT AN OK JOB AND IM HAPPY TO BE THERE I MAKE THE MOST OF IT AND GET PAID WELL BUT IVE HAD TO BATTLE FOR IT BEEN TO PLENTY OF INTERVIEWS TOLD LOTSA HR PEOPLE AND PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYERS TO FUCK OFF RIGHT TO THEIR FACE SOME EMPLOYERS ARE SCARED OF ME ONE EVEN ADMITTED IT BUT IN THE END HE WAS HAPPY TO EMPLOY ME BEST ENGINEER HES EVER HAD AND THATS HIS WORDS, I ALSO HAVE 2 RENTAL HOUSES SO IM A LANDLORD , I ALSO HAVE A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT WHICH I MANAGE, NAH I DONT WORK AT BURGER KING OR MCDONALDS BUT FUNNY ENOUGH IM REAL POLITE TO THOSE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTER ON THE RARE TIMES I GO THERE CAUSE I STILL RESPECT THEM AT LEAST THEIR TRYING