Here's a question - how fast are cops allowed to drive?

[Ozzie]

To go on a tangent, Scumdog, noting that you've been on here since Adam wore nappies. What's with the green boxes and the star sign under my name?

[scumdog]

To go on a tangent, Scumdog, noting that you've been on here since Adam wore nappies. What's with the green boxes and the star sign under my name?

The stars indicate rank (i.e. number of posts you have made)
The green squares indicate how popular you are. (Gree one = people agree with you, red one = they don't agree with you, - somtimes greenhorns think red square is 'dissing' you but all it means that they don't agree with what you posted, now the comment that goes with the squares....well that's a different story)

[spudchucka]

I look forward to the day when our licensing system allows for variable ability in the rest of us.

Sorry to say this, but........... only in your dreams.

[The Stranger:Me]

Sorry to say this, but........... only in your dreams.

You just wait until I am the minister of transport.
Man there are going to be some changes!!

[2much]

SI guess I'll have to pick on parked cars from now on..

It would make for a good start. How about one particular car parked outside the pub in Hawera?..... Oops, too late!

[Lou Girardin]

It would make for a good start. How about one particular car parked outside the pub in Hawera?..... Oops, too late!

Be fair. There were a lot of junior gang members outside the pub that night, and they had to go get a cuppa to settle their nerves too.

[scumdog]

It would make for a good start. How about one particular car parked outside the pub in Hawera?..... Oops, too late!

The parked car was no problem, it was a moving one that crashed!

[Lou Girardin]

The parked car was no problem, it was a moving one that crashed!

You don't know the story then?

[Ozzie]

You don't know the story then?

I don't, and up for another 'discussion' this morning, please enlighten Lou

[scumdog]

You don't know the story then?

Yep I do - and while he was parked he never caused any problem - it was after he ceased to be parked and was moving that he became a problem.

But as usual it's easier to say the cops caused the problem by not catching him la la la........

It was actually a T.O.s fault for giving him a licence in the first place - oh and the car salesmans for selling him the car....and oh, those vans are highly dengerous, look at what happened to the people in it...ad neauseum, ad infinitum.

There was one person to blame- THE FERWIT LOSER THAT WAS DRIVING WHILE PISSED.

[Lou Girardin]

You've got to admit it's not a good look.
They chase an offender at high speed and pull out of the chase when he nearly crashes. Then they see the car parked at a pub, but decide not to go in because there are gang members present and they need a cuppa to settle their nerves (the cops words). So the car is under surveillance, but the cops don't get told when the guy leaves.
He drives off and kills 4 - 5? occupants of a van.
If you're going to be a cop, sometimes you have to take risks to protect the public. Otherwise join Securitas.

[Ozzie]

Stopped the chase, good.

Then what????

Did they call for backup? They oviously weren't watching him.

Guess there wasn't enough skite value in saying they walked into a pub to get him, or waited till he came outside to nab him????

[spudchucka]

You've got to admit it's not a good look.
They chase an offender at high speed and pull out of the chase when he nearly crashes. Then they see the car parked at a pub, but decide not to go in because there are gang members present and they need a cuppa to settle their nerves (the cops words). So the car is under surveillance, but the cops don't get told when the guy leaves.
He drives off and kills 4 - 5? occupants of a van.
If you're going to be a cop, sometimes you have to take risks to protect the public. Otherwise join Securitas.

Had they positively identified the person who was driving the car at the time they abandoned the pursuit?

If not, was there any point entering the pub to locate the person, "Oi, whose driving the XXXX parked in the carpark, we wanna talk to you".... Answer...... silence! Or is it OK to just go into the pub, locate the registered owner and lock him / her up without being able to say 100% that they were the driver in the pusuit.

Plan B: Position cops nearby, watch the vehicle and nab the bastard once he returns to his car.

They positioned a cop car around the corner and had the vehicle under video surveilance, (not a bad plan so far). The cops that were in the pursuit went back to the station to calm their nerves with nice cups of tea, (bad move, they need to harden up). The bad guy leaves the pub, gets into car, drives off. The person watching the video tries to call the cops parked nearby to alert them but the radios have apparently malfunctioned, (technology, who would have thought that it might let you down). The bad guy drives off but the cops waiting for him aren't alerted because the radios are puckaru, the bad guy drives down the road and kills people.

If the comms hadn't failed then their plan would probably have worked. I think they let themselves down pretty badly by allowing the cops involved in the pursuit to go back to the station. They should have had at least two units covering the pub in positions where they are able to visually see the offending car as it begins to move. Thats not always too easy depending on the geographical location and because marked police cars do tend to stand out like dogs ball. I guess thats why they went with the video surveillance option.

Regardless of what the cops did or didn't do nothing takes the responsibility away from the arsehole that drove while intoxicated that night.

[scumdog]

Gee Spud, YOUR version makes too much sense to be on KB. sounds almost as accurate as the info I got too!!

I prefer the rabid half-truths gleaned from cheesy periodicals, so much more dramatic!!