You think it's bad here?

[pzkpfw]

Hi,

Just got an email from my previous Boss (great guy), who sadly went back to Denmark:

The bike is not yet registered in Denmark. I probably don't need to mention it, but getting the bike registered in Denmark will cost me 2 times the NZ value of the bike (approx NZD25k) - I'm not joking.

He had bought a Honda Firestorm here in NZ; and had it shipped back to Denmark - because that was still cheaper than selling it here and buying another one there.

...and he still has to pay twice the NZ price of the bike just to register it.

Cheers,

P.S. He also says:

... I have attached a picture with the view from my new (rented) town house a few months ago - this is why we dont ride bikes from October to May.

(The picture is mostly of snow).

[R6_kid:Me]

what is a firestorm worth in denmark?

[Insanity_rules]

I'm so not going to Denmark. I'd be crucified for registrations on my collection.

[Motig]

I dont think you should have posted that here . Govt agents may be monitoring this board and thats just the sort of thing they could pass on to the LTSA.

[Edbear]

I've been saying it for years! NZ is one of the cheapest countries for motoring!

[Clivoris]

I've been saying it for years! NZ is one of the cheapest countries for motoring!

You and Fred Dagg mate. We don't know how lucky we are.

[Edbear]

You and Fred Dagg mate. We don't know how lucky we are.

Fred Dagg!? Careful, people will think we're oldies!

[Clivoris]

Fred Dagg!? Careful, people will think we're oldies!

Old?? Na man. We's ahead of the wave we are. Cutting edge. Trendsetters. Cough... wheeze... spit! Apparently their is a Fred Dagg revival coming complete with movie.

[paturoa]

does head girl helen have tax tentacles in Denmark too?

[far queue]

I was chatting to a German chap at the Brass Monkey the other weekend about this sort of thing (no, I didn’t mention the war). He’s been out here for about a year and a half, he’d never ridden a bike before he got here, but now has a NZ licence and rides a BMW F650. When I asked him why he waited until he got here before learning to ride he said it was too expensive to get a licence in Germany. He reckoned it would cost about NZ$6000 to get a licence in Germany, as it was compulsory to have a number of lessons and if the instructor didn’t get on with you then you would have to have extra lessons. Plus he said it was a known fact that you had to sit your licence twice, as the 1st time everyone gets failed so the authorities can charge you twice.

If he goes back to Germany he can’t transfer his NZ licence over to a German one, but would still have to have lessons and sit a German licence. He can, however transfer his NZ licence to a UK one and use that in Germany and possibly transfer his UK licence to a German one.

I asked about the price of bikes, thinking that BMW’s would be relatively cheaper there than here. But he said that BMW’s and other European bikes were still very expensive over there, plus Jap bikes were considered to be exotic over there and so were just as expensive as BMW’s etc.

This guy was probably in his late 30’s, early 40’s and struggling a bit to learn how to ride the dirt roads, and was surprised at the speeds we do on the shingle – he said “you Kiwi’s, you ride since you are 5 years old”. Well, I have haven’t been riding since I was 5, but as far as generalisations go he’s probably not too far off for lots of us. We really are very lucky in NZ.

[Quartida]

When I asked him why he waited until he got here before learning to ride he said it was too expensive to get a licence in Germany. He reckoned it would cost about NZ$6000 to get a licence in Germany, as it was compulsory to have a number of lessons and if the instructor didn’t get on with you then you would have to have extra lessons.

The same thing happens in Finland...I'm guessing it's a Eurpoe thing?

[Insanity_rules]

– he said “you Kiwi’s, you ride since you are 5 years old”. Well, I have haven’t been riding since I was 5, but as far as generalisations go he’s probably not too far off for lots of us. We really are very lucky in NZ.

8 here, had a gemini 50. Anyone seen one of those lately?

[mjvduc]

I think this German chap wasn’t really objective, I’m German myself and not everything is bad over here. The license isn’t that cheap, but at least you’ve get some sort of “education” sorry chaps I was pretty shocked how bad your driving habits and skills are and I felt and still feel safer on Italian roads (that means a lot if you have ever driven in italy). The fees and lessons for a license are vary a lot and you can save some bugs if you move outside bigger cities and please keep in mind our wages are a bit different as well. Jap bikes are in general cheaper in NZ, parts are cheaper over here and you don’t find the variety of aftermarket stuff in NZ. We don’t pay road tax and you find the insurance side cheaper as well, you guys do the wof every 6 months and we do it every 2 years and lets say this isn’t just a drive through check. The downside; it is not easy to do any unapproved mod’s without risking a fine (like me). Upside we have also an emission control law in place to make sure we stay within certain limits, also I find bikes and cars in better shape and it doesn’t cost you any effort to see the full ownership record. For guys like me NZ is a paradise, I can change an engine and all sort of things without getting into troubles! In Germany I wouldn’t be able to do this without having the local authorities involved, upside it is hard to have a crashed or stolen bike/engine back on the road.

And the best part, we have no speed limit heaps of race tracks and enough roads to get mad


This can go on forever, lots of up and down sides

mjvduc

[Edbear]

My daughter's fiance is from Germany and has confirmed the troubles they have over there re: licences and repairs. Normal to have to sit test twice, for example! He was shocked that we are allowed to change brake pads and do other maintenance work on our vehicles here! He also said that if one loses one's licence for drink driving, one may as well accept it's not worth the trouble and expense to ever try to get it back. HE did get a few speeding tickets until he got used to the speed limits here, too! He's growing to actually like NZ and has decided to settle here, which is nice as we'd really miss our daughter if he took her back to Germany! He also has commented on the cheap cost of motoring over here by comparison, too!