Yet another bin (does 3rd mean I'm lucky?)

[crashe]

But, who is delivering the mail....?

Looks like Hamilton could be moaning and groaning cos they didnt get any mail yesterday....

[Macktheknife]

Bah! - I've binned 3 times in one day.
Everyone falls off eventually. Shit happens.
Don't dress for the ride - dress for the crash and all that.

JEEZ BD thats got to be some kind of record! Anyone else done better than 3 in one day? (on the road)
Back on topic...
Glad to hear you are ok, not freaking out is actually a good thing IMO, it lets you think more clearly about what you can and cannot do about the situation. The panic reaction for most people is to try and slow things down, (usually by braking hard) which is often the wrong thing to do. And clearly you have learned to look out for sand, strangely enough they use it frequently on corners in some areas during winter or to soak up spills. Nasty stuff anyway, unless its on the beach or Dunes and your on a fun bike.
Bonus day off, and testing your safety gear sucessfully, well done.

[deathstar]

goes with the territory i guess ... i did the exact same thing but on the left hand side of the bike ... going round a roundabout nothing wrong completely safe and BOOM the wheel goes out ... cheaper the bike cheaper the tyres ... but unlike you i had to ride home with no clutch which was not an easy story ... and i had to delivery all of aucklands mail (ok maybe not that last bit)

[ZeroIndex]

Bonus day off, and testing your safety gear sucessfully, well done.

..about that.. only proper safety gear I was wearing was my QUASiMOTO gloves.. I've got a heavyish rainproof jacket.. put it this way.. I'm damn lucky..

[oldrider]

Hi zero, I just had a look at your profile pic to see if you had anything on there that could shed a little light on your binning problem.
I am always interested in reading about city riders bins because there might be something for me to learn about city riding conditions when I have to go there.
My first impression is that you are a big guy (well kitted out too) for that rather small bike. (for you)
Your long legs would tend to put you well back on the seat moving a lot of weight aft and maybe keeping your front wheel a little bit light on the ground therefore exacerbating the slide affect of the sand on the tarmac when cornering.
Sand shouldn't really be such a threat if you are balanced unless you were giving it the gas at the time too with a light front end.
My bike gets a wee bit trick in the front when we are all loaded up and light up front with so much weight on the after end.
My suggestion for what it is worth is try and get a bigger bike more suitable for you larger frame.
You obviously have a problem or you wouldn't be asking, or binning for that matter.
Other than the above and without knowing you or the place or the conditions and your bike we are only guessing what could be the problem.
Keep thinking and trying and good luck. Cheers John.

[ZeroIndex]

But did the mail get through Zero?........ those Hamiltonians need to pay thier bills.......

yeah, they sorted out the mail, gets sent through to NZPost, who charge DXMail to deliver it (it is cheaper to pay a DXMail rider to deliver mail though)

[ZeroIndex]

Mate bad luck, I followed you for a bit the other day while you were riding ya bike (me in car) you looked like you where being really safe etc and were riding well, like they say shite happens, but take it easy mate eh? good thing with you is you are getting shitloads of riding experience and all that WILL make you a great rider, take it in its stride and learn from it dude.
that round about is a prick though aint it?

Wow.. ok.. which bike was I riding? mine or my work bike? what day/time was this? and most importantly, what area?

[Warr]

Hi ZI, sorry to hear of your troubles at my local roundabout.
As for the learning ... Ive spent a little bit of time on trail bike and one thing you do learn is you can recover from a front wheel slide.
On a light bike like you are getting around on with a bit of practise and some more it could help in future 'events'.
Have you noticed guys on dirt bikes holding their inside foot off the pegs when heading around a corner. They do this incase the front slides out. When you feel it you slam your foot down on the dirt. IMPORTANT. Need to wear good boots with ankle support and need to plant your foot a safe distance out. Cause if you cant save it you dont want your foot under the bike.
I have 'saved' myself with a pillion on my previous bike (XJ900) when I hit deep gravel on the inside of a bend on the Ruapuke road. Was just instintive cause if I had thought about it I'd have been history. If I'd thought about it I would have thought. Bike too heavy, speed too fast. Speed was 2nd gear prob 30k's but to put your foot down... mm But having pulled it off all I can say is it's possible. Just dont ask me to do it again.

So for you ZI, take your bike out to a beach somewhere and give it a go!!

[terbang]

You survive to ride another day..

[ZeroIndex]

Hi zero, I just had a look at your profile pic to see if you had anything on there that could shed a little light on your binning problem.
I am always interested in reading about city riders bins because there might be something for me to learn about city riding conditions when I have to go there.
My first impression is that you are a big guy (well kitted out too) for that rather small bike. (for you)
Your long legs would tend to put you well back on the seat moving a lot of weight aft and maybe keeping your front wheel a little bit light on the ground therefore exacerbating the slide affect of the sand on the tarmac when cornering.
Sand shouldn't really be such a threat if you are balanced unless you were giving it the gas at the time too with a light front end.
My bike gets a wee bit trick in the front when we are all loaded up and light up front with so much weight on the after end.
My suggestion for what it is worth is try and get a bigger bike more suitable for you larger frame.
You obviously have a problem or you wouldn't be asking, or binning for that matter.
Other than the above and without knowing you or the place or the conditions and your bike we are only guessing what could be the problem.
Keep thinking and trying and good luck. Cheers John.

now that is really a helpful post green rep for that.. you are right about the sitting position.. that probably played a big part in that.. unfortunately, I can't change my work bike (but I am applying for a different job).. as for my sitting position on my Kinetic, I generally have a LOT of my weight over the front, due to the fact that something in my brain thinks sitting on a commuter as if it were a race bike looks better

But yeah, as soon as my cage is sold (sitting on some car yard or something), then i'll be selling the kinetic, and getting me a gt250r

[Qkkid]

Bah! - I've binned 3 times in one day.
Everyone falls off eventually. Shit happens.
Don't dress for the ride - dress for the crash and all that.

well said good advice that

[ZeroIndex]

well.. just got a call from one of the guys at work, and my bike will be fixed, ready for work tomorrow..

[Sniper]

Glad you are OK mate and the bike is fixing well

[emaN]

dude...
don't make a mountain out of a few grains of sand.
you crashed. you will crash again.
I have. I will again.
don't be freaked out, 'cos then you'll crash sooner.
chill out man, breathe deep, think of the lillies, there you go...relax...

[Hitcher]

I'm a big believer that 99% of crashes are your own fault in one or another.

"Fault" may not be the right word, but I agree with the sentiment. If you participated in something, then you must have contributed to it. You may not have caused it, but there may have been some action you could have taken that may have avoided it or mitigated the impact (as it were).