Demerits... Damn...

[Mr. Peanut]

Hmmm, how about instead of demerit points we use this system? - http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...73682011187743

[Lord Derosso]

Thats another good point actually. It would have to work both ways then.
Are you suppose to go from 100 kph to 50 kph as soon as you hit the sign coming into the township?? Surely there must be some leeway. Anything in the road code?

[spudchucka]

Sounds like that arsehole "Cash register" Cop from Taihape.

Unfortuneately he isn't in Taihape any longer.

[marty]

Oh, I personally think that Demerit-points are more an indicator of the amount of time one spends on the road and how (un)lucky you are, not your driving/riding ability.

bollocks. i do 60000kms a year in the car, about 10000 a year on the bike, most of it on SH1 between cambridge and auckland, cambridge and tauranga, much of it at speeds which would warrant some attention, and my demerit total does not reflect that statement at all.

my brother does closer to 70000kms a year, in an XR6, and he has 25 demerits.

most reps and truckies and long distance commuters actually pay attention to their driving and what's on the road in front of them, have good quality radar detectors, always know where they are and how fast they are going, and from a combination of these, manage to avoid being taxed. The number oif times i have seen on here - 'i got ticketed for !#%km/h, and i only reckon i was doing !!%k'. don't reckon - KNOW how fast you're going FFS.

from experience, the person most likely to be ticketed is the weekend warrier/traveller, who has no idea how fast they are going, and (apparantley) NEED to get somewhere quickly.

[marty]

Thats another good point actually. It would have to work both ways then.
Are you suppose to go from 100 kph to 50 kph as soon as you hit the sign coming into the township?? Surely there must be some leeway. Anything in the road code?

it's clearly stated, and has been posted on here numerous times, that speed enforcement should not be carried out within 250m of a speed change sign, unless conditions warrant it.

and in any case, just cause you're in a 100k zone, doesn't mean you HAVE to do 100 until the sign. if you have a stop sign or an intersection in a 100k zone, do you do 100k until you reach it? no, you slow down before you get there. duh.

[onearmedbandit]

As to needing to own a 1000cc before you have problems with speeding, I can assure anyone that the mere 600F keeps me sweating even with taking off from inner city traffic lights, and we now have this 30kph zone in the city to contend with too. I am hitting 50 kph to get into 2nd out of the blocks unless I take care, and thats just 86 horsepower.

I never said that. However from my years riding all sorts of bikes, I have definitely found the thou the hardest to keep legal in town. It is actually a lot more interesting to try to keep legal than to just accelerate away. My thou is geared for just over 140km/h in 1st, just looking at throttle will take you over the limit in town. Shit I could lose my license on any road in NZ for just red-lining it in 1st! But I wouldn't sell it or go down in size. Just luuuve that midrange grunt, coupled with a screaming top-end.

[Madness]

I have definitely found the thou the hardest to keep legal in town. It is actually a lot more interesting to try to keep legal than to just accelerate away.

I had a GSX750H a few years ago (mint I should have kept it) and it required a demanding level of concentration to keep at 50k. The engine/gearing just found 50 unpleasant and you had to coax it back down all the time. The heavier crankshaft of a bigger bike for me is far more controllable. More tame at lower speeds.

Marty - I'd suggest to you that doing high Km's predominantly on SH1 around Cambridge/Auckland and you'd have to be doing some stupid speeds to warrant being pulled. The South Waikato, Wairarapa and lower North Island Highway patrols are blessed with lots more corners to hide behind. The traffic flows in the areas you mentioned mean it's unlikely that you'll be pulled over for doing 115km/hr as you're one of thousands doing the same much of the time. Radar detectors have their place, some of us don't like the idea of being reliant on them. Oh, chill out too bud, you seem grumpy.

[Virago]

..........They should have seperate licences for bikes, cars, HT and such. And when you get booked in a car your points go towards that licence. On a bike it goes to that licence repectively. Seems a whole lot fairer.

Nah, sorry mate, that sound to me like self-serving crap. "Oops, lost my bike license. Never mind, I can still drive my car. And if I lose my car license, I can still drive your kids to school in a bus."

Your ideas of what is fair seem a little warped to me.....

But my sympathies for the ticket you got - seems a bit harsh to me.

[Titanium]

Apparently you can not be ticketed within 200 m of a change of speed zone 100 kmh to less.

Check it out. Your ticket should have a distance from it on there.

Cheers


Peter

[Lord Derosso]

Just cause you're in a 100k zone, doesn't mean you HAVE to do 100 until the sign. if you have a stop sign or an intersection in a 100k zone, do you do 100k until you reach it? no, you slow down before you get there. duh.

What do you mean by DUH ! You obviously didnt understand the point I was trying to make and what the hell does a stop sign have to do with the situation we are actually discussing here, the point where a motorist is arriving or leaving a township or entering the open road. The situation on a motorway coming up to traffic lights(hence your stop in a 100km area), is a totally different situation from what this forum is discussing and of course only an idiot would treat it the same way. Then again perhaps I dont have the relevant experience to discuss the finer points BECAUSE in 36 years of motorcycling I have had one speeding ticket and NO demerit points . What I see numerous times on this forum is that some demerit point holders seem in a great rush to tell everyone esle about their latest trophy points. Do you think its a game out there?

[smokeyging]

You must be a crap driver. I have no demerit points.

Famous last words...

[Clivoris]

Man I hate paying speeding tax but I figure I should expect it at least once a year. If we get caught we can't say we didn't know the rules and I could be wrong but it seems that the full-on policing has reduced some of the four wheeled idiocy on the roads. I have also benefitted from a bit of discretion from police officers in the last couple of years and that has been greatly appreciated. On the balance I'm stoked that they're out there trying to make the roads safer. It's a shame they don't bust some of those tail-gating wankers on the Wellington motorway though.

[cowboyz]

Apparently you can not be ticketed within 200 m of a change of speed zone 100 kmh to less.

Check it out. Your ticket should have a distance from it on there.

Cheers


Peter

no such thing. Just says clyde street Ohakune on it.

[marty]

i know what the point is. and the situation is exactly the same. you adjust your speed to the conditions ahead - not once you get there.

and yeah - it is a game - sometimes you come second (which is just a nice way of saying you lost) -- suck it up.

[Dafe]

And as soon as everyone starts hitting the accelerators once they reach the sign. This cop will be ticketing everybody for going too slow in the 100K zone. Some people may still be doing 50 in a 100 zone!

Can't win! Bwahhhaha (Unless you're on a Gixxer eh!)