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    The art of negotiation

    Hello all,

    I'm in the process of trying to get off the NO REG part of my recent traffic infringement and was wondering if anyone had a copy of a letter that I could plagerise (sp). I'm crap at this sort of thing and would appreciate any help.
    I have read the "joke" ones that have been sent but I'm really after a more serious letter.
    If anyone does have a copy could they please PM me or email me at paul.weaver@baycorpadvantage.com


    Thanks everyone....
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckman
    I'm in the process of trying to get off the NO REG part of my recent traffic infringement
    No offense dude, but I think you should just suck it up and pay out. You *were* unregistered, and ignorance is not a defense. Complaints about genuine examples of unfair 'road taxation' will stand out better if they're not buried amid whinging from guys who didn't bother to check the sticker on the back of the bike they just bought...

    Still. Worth a try I suppose, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom
    No offense dude, but I think you should just suck it up and pay out. You *were* unregistered, and ignorance is not a defense. Complaints about genuine examples of unfair 'road taxation' will stand out better if they're not buried amid whinging from guys who didn't bother to check the sticker on the back of the bike they just bought...

    Still. Worth a try I suppose, eh?
    Whewww, tough call I reckon, JR.

    When you'd just picked up a new (to you) bike, it would be the last thing you'd expect to need doing and if it was about to expire, I'd *definitely* expect the dealer to tell me.

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    How far out of date was it? Considering your rego is back-dated to expiry when you pay it, it shouldn't be too hard to argue that you haven't used the bike for a few weeks and state that when you do (did) pay up, you were paying for x weeks of non use. unless your rego is more than 12 months gone, the govt is losing nothing through late payment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom
    No offense dude, but I think you should just suck it up and pay out. You *were* unregistered, and ignorance is not a defense. Complaints about genuine examples of unfair 'road taxation' will stand out better if they're not buried amid whinging from guys who didn't bother to check the sticker on the back of the bike they just bought...

    Still. Worth a try I suppose, eh?
    Ahhhhh Bit me.

    I'm already "sucking it up" with the speeding and lane splitting so I think I'll pass on the REG issue.
    Not even with yours!!!

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    As far as the Infringement Bureau is concerned they wont show much mercy to any rego fines where the licence is a month or more overdue. Write a letter though because you never know you might just get lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudchucka
    As far as the Infringement Bureau is concerned they wont show much mercy to any rego fines where the licence is a month or more overdue. Write a letter though because you never know you might just get lucky.
    Hi Spud,

    My Rego was overdue by about two weeks so I'll give it a go.

    A huuuge thatnks to MikeL who has provided me with a brilliantly written letter which I will send away and see what happens.
    Not even with yours!!!

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    Oh the irony.... a debt collector trying to get out of a debt.

    Don't pay the fine. Eventually it will get sent to Baycorp. Should be possible to "loose it" at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403
    Don't pay the fine. Eventually it will get sent to Baycorp.
    No it won't - it's stay in the Dept of Courts and they'll eventually come and take his bike away.
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    gettin off

    In my experience writing letters to said authoritys has been a big fat waste. they arnt interested in your argument they just say NO and dont bother giving you a reason why just NO. I hope the keyboard makes it to the end of this post. I would be sending letters to the place you bought it from unless it was a private sale. if it was then im sorry tough luck. If the rego had lapsed by less than a month then you should have been given 14 days to produce said rego. however unfortunatly this is at the discretion of the ticketing officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scroter
    In my experience writing letters to said authoritys has been a big fat waste. they arnt interested in your argument they just say NO and dont bother giving you a reason why just NO.
    They can't say "yes" if you don't ask, either.

    In MY experience, writing a letter can get you off - it's happened a couple of times for me. But then the nice cop gave me the 14 day leeway on the ticket.


    Duckman - I presume you have since got the new rego & have supplied proof of that (and hopefully pointed out that you got it the next business day too) with the letter too. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim
    They can't say "yes" if you don't ask, either.

    In MY experience, writing a letter can get you off - it's happened a couple of times for me. But then the nice cop gave me the 14 day leeway on the ticket.


    Duckman - I presume you have since got the new rego & have supplied proof of that (and hopefully pointed out that you got it the next business day too) with the letter too. Good luck.
    Oh yes...
    Not even with yours!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckman
    Hi Spud,

    My Rego was overdue by about two weeks so I'll give it a go.

    A huuuge thatnks to MikeL who has provided me with a brilliantly written letter which I will send away and see what happens.
    If it was only 2 weeks overdue you should definately have a crack. The official word from the bureau is no compliance after 1 month overdue. Make sure it is paid up when you right in, send a copy of the receipt and the new licence label. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudchucka
    If it was only 2 weeks overdue you should definately have a crack. The official word from the bureau is no compliance after 1 month overdue. Make sure it is paid up when you right in, send a copy of the receipt and the new licence label. Good luck.
    Cheers Spud,

    I'll send all that stuff in with the letter. Wish me luck guys n gals.
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    Not sure if this is relavent as I wasn't following this thread but....

    I was told that anyone selling a car or bike must do so with a warrant and rego valid for three months after the date of sale. It is illegal to sell a bike or car with an expired warrant or rego or one that is about to.... could be reason enough to argue in a letter, then state that they should go after the seller if they don't let you off.

    Just a thought.
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