Would you? If you could?

[avgas]

i had 32 fractures in my leg, 16 that were full brakes. I crashed at 30kph, and was wearing armoured everything except my jeans.
I did not crash but was hit.
Anyone else want to pop down to dairy without a helmet?
Saying goes, got a $20 head wear a $20 helmet. How much head u got wif no helmet?

[Gremlin]

I have tried accelerating hard with my visor up, and I struggled to breathe. The same for speeds above 100, although the visor can close the last few notches at about 130-140... I have no idea how the hell people can ride in open face helmets

I have ridden around the sub-divisions I am working in, without the helmet, as its a few hundred metres etc, and the bike is way too loud.

It would simply be impossible to ride without a visor'd helmet for simple reasons like that, let alone the thought of being barely alive, with head injuries etc.

[Ixion]

Uh, we did manage with open face lids back in the day. And managed to keep breathing.

[onearmedbandit]

I posted this in another thread:

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How about this then. Now most of the people here talking 'individual-choice' are experienced riders, some with many miles and years under their belts. Shit some of these guys might not have had an 'off' for many years as well. So from their perspective, I can see why they feel that way.

But stop to think of other riders for a minute, especially those who are maybe considering their first bike. Now as we all know, image is a part of motorcycling. Whether you want one or not, you've got one. So young newbie wanting to look as cool as possible, takes advantage of the no hemlet law and rides the streets for the first time. Ever. I'm not saying he's destined to come off, but his chances are higher than most. I not arguing that this is the sole reason we should have helmet laws, but I feel it is an important one.

New riders and those with little experience are the ones we need to be thinking of here, not only ourselves.

[Motu]

I think people should be made to ride across a city with no helmet - selfpreservation is a great learning tool....it might wake them up.

[SARGE]

I was reading the thread (and article) on the american football player in the accident on his busa... ended up with a broken jaw and nose and some other injuries...

I know that helmets are required in NZ, and most other countries...

However, if they made helmets optional in NZ, would you ride without one?

i rode for 30 years without one .. ever had a problem.. only time i had one on was in the pissing rain and long trips on the freeway ( over 80 mph)..


but we actually WATCHED for bikes back home .. not ike the cock smoking cagers in Aucklad

[Badcat]

i always wear a full-face - can't even wear an open face without feeling very insecure.

[NC]

You have to wear a helmet, it's fucked if you don't!

[Dooly]

Yep, I'd wear one always on the road.

I know I should wear a helmet off road, but I only ride the dirt bikes on my land, and dont, so.....
Bad habit I guess.

[bobsmith]

I posted this in another thread:

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How about this then. Now most of the people here talking 'individual-choice' are experienced riders, some with many miles and years under their belts. Shit some of these guys might not have had an 'off' for many years as well. So from their perspective, I can see why they feel that way.

But stop to think of other riders for a minute, especially those who are maybe considering their first bike. Now as we all know, image is a part of motorcycling. Whether you want one or not, you've got one. So young newbie wanting to look as cool as possible, takes advantage of the no hemlet law and rides the streets for the first time. Ever. I'm not saying he's destined to come off, but his chances are higher than most. I not arguing that this is the sole reason we should have helmet laws, but I feel it is an important one.

New riders and those with little experience are the ones we need to be thinking of here, not only ourselves.

Your concern is understood, and I actually feel the same way, so I'm pointing you to the earlier post by placiefemme:

Like maybe all learners and restricted license holders should be made to wear them, once you've got your full its your head, your life, your choice...

I thought that was a great idea...

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah, sounds good to me. However how do the Police know who can and can't wear a helmet without pulling you over first? Sure they can run a license check from the rego tags, but you can't be sure if the rider is the owner.

[Ixion]

No more difficult than for the cops to tell if the guy on the 600 is allowed to ride it. Or if he's allowed to be riding at this time of night. Or if he should be carrying that pillion. No way they can tell if he's only on a restricted. So, same deal. You get pulled up for something and , oh dear, you're only on a restricted . And on a 600cc. With a pillion. After 10pm. AND no helmet either. Kar-ching.

So it just becomes another condition of the restricted licence. "Must wear a helmet at all times". Not necessarily endorsing the idea, but it would be workable enough.

[Lou Girardin]

No helmet, no gloves, no jacket , no leggings (still had my boots on).

Felt DECIDEDLY odd! All sort of naked and exposed.

I do that at work, to get bikes to and from the workshop. I had a cop drive past and not batt an eyelid, I was on the footpath as well.
Must be that discretion thing huh.

[oldrider]

It's rules for this, rules for that, that really gets up my nose.

How well did the traffic behave in Auckland during the power outage and loss of 300 traffic lights?

My understanding is that personal responsibility took over and everything went very well!

No accidents or injuries through people cooperating with each other to get through the problem period.

There is a video of an Indian street intersection with no lights apparently no rules, just a desire to get about their business without incident.

Works for them!

NZ is one of the most highly regulated countries in the world.

Rules rule here and any problem is fixed with a new rule or a bloody tax to slow things down. Wake up NZ.

[ManDownUnder]

I wouldn't ride without a full face - but that's just me.

Others are welcome to - no worries. Personal responsibility as OldRider said. If you/they want hurt your good selves... be my guest. Just don't put up my ACC or anything else to pay for your injuries...