If a tree falss in the woods, and no one is there to hear it, blah, blah, blah
Forum whore
If a tree falss in the woods, and no one is there to hear it, blah, blah, blah
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Guest
Ah fuck, I've got so much to say here.
Yes we're are overtaxed, currently to the tune of 8 billion dollars. This is daylight robery. In theory, Governments should only tax the people enough to run core services and infrastructure, that's it. Not only are we being overtaxed, but we all have very little to show for it. Regardless of previous governments, NZ always just manages to get by. Not a very dynamic country at all and we are not taking seriously on an international scale. What's more is the future is looking very bleek indeed. Social welfare is a real problem. For years we have been dishing out money yet our social problems have got much worse. Givers get takers - simple.
On the rates front, we're actually quite cheap compared to other countries. However we still don't have much to show for what we do pay. The problem with Auckland is there are just too many Councils wasting money. I do some business with them and the waste makes me sick. Another note is that rates are calculated on property value - another rich tax basically. This is unfair cause 2 neighbours living next door to each other will use the community services equally. Why should the person with a house worth 200k more pay more?
Still Ridin'
No, Dave, that's how the council gets rich...Originally Posted by RantyDave
Motorbike Camping for the win!
Still Ridin'
Person spends his/her money to buy a better house/section - say, right on the beach front - and spends money to improve it to increase its value. Council, who did not supply the beach and has done absolutely nothing to enhance the value of the property, ups the rates.
What a pack of fucking criminals!
I heard of some poor shit living at the end of a "private road" (fucking long driveway shared with his neighbour) that he and his neighbour built and paid for, getting his water from the roof, sending his waste to a septic tank (which gets pumped out at his expense if full) and being charged something like an extra $3000 on top of what his neighbour is paying for rates - because his property is more valuable.
The council is not supplying him with anything more than they supply his neighbour - they're actually supplying nothing more than a rural road that doesn't even go past his property - and yet they feel justified in charging him $3K extra for his property because it is on the beach front (a fact that already cost him a pretty penny when he purchased the land).
Time for itemised bills from those bastards, I think - for each and every service they provide, the value of house and land does not enter into it. No mains water supply, no sewerage, no rubbish pick-up = SFA in rates, just to cover roading - based on how close your house is to the road. If you have to drive over 500 metres from the council-supplied roading to get to your house, they should start paying you a "rebate".
Motorbike Camping for the win!
Guest
Not to mention the elderly who have been forgotten. They spent their entire lives working their arses off (not like us), paying tax and they're being screwed from all angles. Some of them may be sitting on a $500,000 house and can't afford electricity let alone rates.
Administrator
Fuck the otter. If I see it, I'll shoot it. Otter pelts make nice glove lining.
Forum whore
They smell bad,reeaal bad.
Curmudgeon
I dunno about you, Spanky - but when I went to school 39.9% was less than half...
Forum whore
Faarrk, you guys get it sheep.
Come live in Waitakere City, Ok we get... well we get.... something I guess.
Let me see rubbish pick up is user pays, water is user pays. Oh I know, we are getting a lot of new traffic lights and a big new council building.
Only $2,700 pa for about 150 m2 of land (single unit in unit title)
Curmudgeon
So don't you vote?
Night rider
Well I am a rural owner.
We: Maintain our own 1 km long private raod; have a septic tank which we maintain; pay for our own water supply; pay a contractor to collect our rubbish; etc etc. Rough cost of $2200 pa
For all these non-council services we pay rates of $576 pa. So its very similar overall to what CaN pays in Waitakere.
Time to ride
LOOK.. ZOMBIES!
nope..i dont think im eligible to vote in NZ.. only a resident not a citizen
Curmudgeon
Residents can vote.
Perhaps we should make ourselves familiar with the system before we use phrases like "..without representation.."
Deus ex ukulele
What, and fuck up a perfectly good uninformed rant?
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Que?
Hutt City Council and a few others around the country contract Excell Corporation for a lot of it's maintenance and service work. Last time I heard, Excell was owned by Eric Watson a man who knows how to make a buck.
If a vehicle is abandoned outside your property call the police. They should come and check it out and if obviously abandoned, they will arrange collection with council. The police probably get charged $400 for being such good customers.
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