Completely Un-pc Vote

[What?]

Yeah, I did think of that, but he was breaking the rules before I entered his little view of the world. I followed him for about 55K at that speed, so I reckon that was heaps of time to pull me (or someone else) up. My pick is he had been to HO or court or somesuch and had his botty smacked, so was driving home with an attitude problem.

[Kwaka-Kid]

bare in mind this is only your pick... As all it ever seems is that instantly people think nasty things about cops... and fair enuf, i understand the reputation and all.. but half of their reputation is made up from what people THINK is going on.. when really.. He could simply have been called out to an accident/duty and thought there was no need for flashing lights... and u said he later slowed down or somthing? well he was most likly stood down as more units attended... or he possibly forgot to flick the switch during this to put the lights on.. which is bad i know.. but no where near as bad as u are making this guy out to be

You should be shamed for becoming so cynical in ur age :P

Think positive.. it helps keep your own attatude good.

- this all coming from a fully inexperienced 17yo. so feel free to shoot me down

[SPman]

Shoot you down? Never!

After all, this is a balanced board here

 and we need different points of view

 

[bikerboy]

The cops are held up to be better than everyone else, and they most likely believe it.

Just traveling along I see cops doing the same "bad "things everyone else does, change lanes without signaling, going with the flow of traffic even though over 50kph, going through yellow lights etc. These guys aren't on any important mission, they are just exhibiting the same generally bad driving habits of everyone else.

When caught, they make up an excuse, lie and cover up for each other. Sadly we believe they are the good guys because they are really all there is between us and the bad guys.

It is the hypocrascy that makes us cynical, they go after the easy targets in the name of making the roads safe. They will never convince me it's about safety not money.

Sit at any intersection and at least three cars go through which shouldn't, In twelve years of living in NZ I have not heard of nor know anyone to recieve a ticket for going through a red light.

[Kwaka-Kid]

haha yeah well to say my points of veiw are different is... erm, an understatement

[Redstar]

What about Bikes? no not the motorised type I mean the guys and gals in lycra shorts they can pass on the left,shoot through red lights ride on the footpath, use ped crossings and generally flout all the so called road user rules no need for a licence and do the Men in blue do anything? na too hard. but in suburban streets these persons can hit 60klm/hr with impunity.
I got another Passing $150 fine on thursday yep KS if your wathching its me! 25 years no accidents at fault car moped or bike but hell man you have your job to do I wont waste the stamp for a the dear john letter. Ill give my son nothing for his birhday so you can make target.

PS Nothing wrong with gals in Lycra!

[Kwaka-Kid]

Redstar... that didnt happen to be on a Yellow SV650 did it?

[BigB]

This a timely reminder of what can happen if you do run

Two dead after police chase


Two people are dead and another is seriously injured following a high speed police chase in Northland.

The chase began after a motorcyclist was ordered to pull over on State Highway One, near Waipu around nine o'clock on Monday night.

Police say the motorcyclist rode off, reaching speeds of up to 195 kilometres an hour towards the Northland town of Whangarei.

Inspector Peter Rosendale says police had given up the chase moments before the motorcyclist smashed into an oncoming car.

The motorcyclist died at the scene and the two occupants of the car were taken to Whangarei Hospital.

The 18 year old female driver of the car died

[bluninja]

True, the real tragedy in this is the death of the car driver and injury of another. I'm assuming that they were not to blame for the accident (a big assumption without facts I know). As for the rider....well they escaped a fine and a riding ban......and got banned from life.....what a price. 

Interesting that the police had stopped the chase 'moments' before the accident, and the speeds of 195 kph reached quoted, imply that is actually how fast they were riding when they crashed. That this is a human tragedy is no doubt, but there may well be some police 'spin' in the report.

I'm not sure I would be doing those sort of speeds in the dark, chase or not. Bike headlights aren't good enough to see ahead of you far enough at that speed.

TTFN

[Dave]

Desperation leads to desperate measures!
I don't think the police should be even trying to chase someone at those sort of speeds. The report I heard on the radio said that a patrol car had been chasing at speeds up to 195 and that another patrol car had joined in the chase.
Really they are just pushing the person to cause something like this to happen.
After a minute or two of chasing they would probably have enough info (rego,color,make etc.) to catch this person at a later date without people being killed.

[Coldkiwi]

yup... going for a runner is only worth it if you're all going to live to brag about it.

To take someone else's life in the process is just wrong beyond all measure.

[Kwaka-Kid]

Im not sure i agree with you dave... if the plice stuck to that then they would let every little sucker go, and we would all know that "just hit over 150kmph even on a streight and they will let you go" as we also know that all the info theycan get is still not enough/as good sa catching the bugger red handed.  I think the police did the right thing and the only thing wrong was calling off the chase... Now all the public will be doing is putting their spin on things that the police are to blame.. it sounds right in a long thought process.. but then step back. .take another look.. relate it to somthing.. did the cops MAKE HIM CRASH? no, fuck off, sorry this just makes me mad :P  its like saying the guy infront of me on pukekohe racetrack made me crash because he made me try and keep up with him, what utter bollocks. :S

[Dave]

The family that lost a daughter this morning probably dont agree with you.

[Kwaka-Kid]

well, i hate to say this and all, and i dont mean to disrespect the family or anything, i fully feel sad about it myself, and im sure it was a big loss, but however, somimes such big losses as these make people think and stuff anything possible to have saved the loss from happening... But somtimes you just have to accept that for justice to take place there are casualties etc... i know it sounds really insensitive.. but its like, it feels bad for the family/close friends mostly.. otherwise you must seperate urself from that and seek the best way to like, bring justice... if it was my brother say.. i would feel sad and angry, however i think i would be understanding towards the force, you cant, simply CANT blame them at all... when u step back and take a big overveiw of it without getting lost in the details.. its just not logical. this biker is to blame, it is purely his fault... in saying that police should stand down around those speeds would only make people reach them more often to get off little offences.. which i think would bring the death toll higher...

Just, have a nice long hard think - make an example.. relate it to somthing.

[Nouseforaname]

When i went passed a cop 5 weeks ago going over 100kph in a 50 i did seriously consider doing a runner, as i wouldnt be in the shit that i am now..... lost my licence instantly for 28days and also pending a fine and further loss of license once i finally get a summons to go to court... not only that but i almost got fired from my job too. But i had to think about a few things very quickly when i saw the red and blue flashing ;

A: Just go for it... and very possibly get away

B: Just go for it... and end up dead

C: pull over and get a bollocking from a very uptight female officer and then walk for 1 1/2 hours to get home.

I went for option C..........

I must say though i feel damn sorry for the innocent girl who was killed up north by the triumph rider.... she was on her way back back from visiting her dying grandfather.