Police working to a quota?? Surely not...

[XTC]

Article in the herald here
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10389327

I find it hard to believe that anyone would think that some traffic policing is about revenue rather than safety

[Storm]

Of course they arent working to a quota. They are as honest as politicians, and as straight as Elton John

[Grahameeboy]

Article in the herald here
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10389327

I find it hard to believe that anyone would think that some traffic policing is about revenue rather than safety

When it comes to speeding this is the easiest and most effecient method of upholding the Law and I guess that this cannot be argued.

However, having a quote does fly in the face of what the Govt say they are doing. Why is it that at month end or bank hols they Police make more of an effort......it has to be that they know that there are more cars out there and a higher productivity rate.

I am not slagging off the cops as they have a job to do and they are just the poor sods who, like a lot of us, have to follow the job description.

It is just a shame that speeding is not really the main issue with accidents / safety aspects and we have all seen bad driving which really superseds speed issue and I have myself witnesses bad driving in front of a patrol car and nothing happens because speeding is objective and cannot be argued.

How many fatal accidents are actually caused by bad driving rather than speed?

In the UK stats say that 30% of accidents are speed related but when you break down the accidents only 4% were actually caused by excessive speed.

Yep 30% of accidents are caused by speed so 70% are caused by drivers keeping to speed limit or

30% of accidents are caused by alcohol so 70% of accidents are caused by sober drivers.

So you could argue that keeping to the speed limit and being sober is more dangerous.....okay a silly twist but you can see my point.

[Sniper]

Yep 30% of accidents are caused by speed so 70% are caused by drivers keeping to speed limit or

Drivers on cellphones, drivers not indicating, drivers who chat to their mums and weave all over, drivers who fall asleep at the wheel. Plenty of examples but its easy to get caught in the facts

30% of accidents are caused by alcohol so 70% of accidents are caused by sober drivers.

See above, but still very well said mate

I have no problem with the cops. I had a minor gripe when they gave me a fine, but I was in the wrong. Who cares about ticket quota? If you were caught driving illegally or doing something else wrong then you get a ticket. No use bitching that you were part of a quota system, it wont stand up in court.

My sunday morning 2c

[GIXser]

Well said Grahame,
a few of us were pulled over last week on state highway 16 first person got a ticket for speeding,.. the cunt/oops... i mean cop gave me a ticket fas well for my plate, (it was dirty and wrong size etc)he proceeded to tell me that his boss had told him to write tickets because to many people had been dying on this road, i asked him, as i wasnt speeding .. what my plate had to do with people dying ont the road,????, he just mumbled.. and gave me the ticket,
point in case ....this cop was just a prick and had a quota to fill, at the end of the day they are just running their own cost centres" and thats fucked,,with all the crime going on

[cowpoos]

instead of turning this in to a cop bashing thread.....how about we turn it into a government bashing thread!!!

[Sniper]

instead of turning this in to a cop bashing thread.....how about we turn it into a government bashing thread!!!

I hate the goverment, lets stage a coup.

[Grahameeboy]

I have no problem with the cops. I had a minor gripe when they gave me a fine, but I was in the wrong. Who cares about ticket quota? If you were caught driving illegally or doing something else wrong then you get a ticket. No use bitching that you were part of a quota system, it wont stand up in court.

My sunday morning 2c

I am with you on that one....see my thread when I got pinged...........however, my point is that the Govt need to be honest and if there is a quota system admit it.........and not just concentrate on speeding because that is not a level playing field.

[Grahameeboy]

I hate the goverment, lets stage a coup.

I did say Govt......

[Grahameeboy]

Well said Grahame,
a few of us were pulled over last week on state highway 16 first person got a ticket for speeding,.. the cunt/oops... i mean cop gave me a ticket fas well for my plate, (it was dirty and wrong size etc)he proceeded to tell me that his boss had told him to write tickets because to many people had been dying on this road, i asked him, as i wasnt speeding .. what my plate had to do with people dying ont the road,????, he just mumbled.. and gave me the ticket,
point in case ....this cop was just a prick and had a quota to fill, at the end of the day they are just running their own cost centres" and thats fucked,,with all the crime going on

I do not think that cops are cunts.....there just needs to be consistency in what is done I guess.

Anyway, I am gonna head off for Coro, probably my last ride whilst I get my restricted licence for going over 100pts....no complaints just a nuisance so gonna enjoy my last ride for a while....

[cowpoos]

I hate the goverment, lets stage a coup.

wonder if we can inlist tama iti ???

[Sniper]

wonder if we can inlist tama iti ???

If it gets bad we could always get a couple of wild ones too. Although tama iti running round firing off rounds should be enough for a start

[jimbo600]

Lets all go to Parliaiment and do burnouts on the NZ flag.

I would much rather be past by a competent driver at 140kmh than have to dodge a bungling twat at 90kmh.

The police use a intelligence led policing model. That means that all facets of policing revolve around stats. If a district is showing lower stats in a certain area they will crack down on that area. Personally I think its bollocks but there you go. Giving out trivial tickets pisses us off, besmirches the rest of the police, and serves little purpose other than massaging statistics.

[terbang]

I am not slagging off the cops as they have a job to do and they are just the poor sods who, like a lot of us, have to follow the job description

Yes I agree the pollies use the police as political footballs. However it is all very well for cops to say "Oh I was just doing what Im told", but as the last window of opportunity you would think they, cops, would have the nouse or freedom to offer some feedback. They are part of the picture and their say is important.

So if my employer said "point yersalf toward a mountain at 500 MPH", whether it be for commercial reasons or a mistake is irrelevant, you as a passenger would like to think that the front line pilot had enough clues to recognise a problem and have the facility to avoid the problem and then feed it back to make the future operation more effective and safer..

My view is that speed cameras and similar are just plain revenue collecting and the arguement that it isn't is starting to wear thin. You cops out there do see the real picture and it is about time you, through your own associations, had a voice on these issues. Or do you think the current policing in NZ is just fine and don't want to see any changes..?

[pritch]

but as the last window of opportunity you would think they, cops, would have the nouse or freedom to offer some feedback. They are part of the picture and their say is important.

It does happen, however rarely, but the politicians and therefore management, aren't interested. My information is out of date now but people haven't changed much in the last three years or so...