Police working to a quota?? Surely not...

[Lou Girardin]

Post 82 shows a graph indicating road deaths between 1990 - 2004, after a spike in 1991 the trend has been downwards, (92, 93, 94). The graph also says that targeted enforcement, compulsary breath testing and speed cameras were introduced during the same period.
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At the end of the period. So there you have it, the road toll fell when you guys did nothing.
How about doing nothing again?
At least you'll be supporting Darwin.

[Skytwr]

While some of the threads are about speed limits, Australia is lowering some of these in residential areas from 60 to 50 and even 40.

Due to the increase of people living in the countryside here and moving out of the city to there small farms. The councils are lowering speeds as they plan for more trucks doing the earth moving for the sub divisons and the expected arrival of the new residence.

Expect a lot more rural roads to have lower limits from now on.

One reason for the 100k limit is we do not have the same well built roads that they are able to build overseas. On and off ramps that are too short to get up to the correct speed etc.

[spudchucka]

How about doing nothing again?

I'd be happy to oblige, but it aint up to me.

[terbang]

Finn, please be quite clear in understanding that I absolutely could not care in the slightest what you think.

How long before the pensions due there Spud..?

[Finn]

Finn, please be quite clear in understanding that I absolutely could not care in the slightest what you think.

Yes, you've mentioned that before and yet I still feel compelled to make you look like an idiot for posting such a pathetic statement. Fact: the police are having very little effect on the road toll. Targetting speeding is not working and has never worked in any other country.

On a positive note, your new boss is really cute. She's bursting with experience and I'm sure she'll be able to regain the lack of public confidence in the police.

Now go polish those booties and make me proud.

[Mr. Peanut]

The mandatory end-of-thread bitch fight.


Good work fellas...

[Finn]

The mandatory end-of-thread bitch fight.


Good work fellas...

It's not a bitch fight Peanus, it's a well rounded debate. Currently, I'm ahead by a long shot. I mean who's gonna side with someone who gives out tickets to people for doing 10 k's over the limit?

Over to you Spud...

[terbang]

Cmon Finn, be civil now, its Mr Peanus..

[Scouse]

Cmon Finn, be civil now, its Mr Peanus..

You mean Mr Peanus with added Nob Cheese

[spudchucka]

It's not a bitch fight Peanus, it's a well rounded debate. Currently, I'm ahead by a long shot. I mean who's gonna side with someone who gives out tickets to people for doing 10 k's over the limit?

Over to you Spud...

Inflate your ego all you want, I aint interested.

[scumdog]

Everybody knows that, it's just a convenient way of gathering more tax.

Sweden and a couple of neighbouring countries are INCREASING speed limits due to the safety advances in cars. Yes, that's INCREASING, in some freeways it's up to 130kph.

Fuck I'm sick of narrow minded, neanderthal, island thinking.

(1) You'll be disappointed to know it is about 20 years since I contibuted to said 'tax'

(2)And how do the roads in Sweden compare to ours?
And how tough is their licencing system?
And how much has their population and car numbers increased in the last 15 years?.

Ya got to compare apples with apples ya know.

[scumdog]

Good to see the message has got through to you... the brainwashing message.

Shit driving is the killer. And "kiwis" know how to drive very poorly.

If speeds in excess of 100kmh are deadly, then all motorsport MUST be banned immediately. Formula 1, Moto GP, V8 supercars? Are they insane!!!

No, no, it's the STOP in excess of 100kmh that's deadly

The shit driving bit I agree on.

[Jantar]

(2)And how do the roads in Sweden compare to ours?
And how tough is their licencing system?
And how much has their population and car numbers increased in the last 15 years?.

Ya got to compare apples with apples ya know.

I can answer some of these questions. My youngest son has been in Sweden for almost a year now, and I have asked him these very things. He is working in the Michelin Tyre factory as a loader. A great job for someone qualified as a commercial pilot.

The roads are comparable to ours, except evryone drives on the wrong side of the road. During winter the roads are very icy and often snow bound, but vehicles are fitted with snow tyres.

To get a Swedish drivers licence he just showed his New Zealand Learner's motorbike licence, and was presented with a full Swedish drivers licence for cars and bikes. He did say that the cost of getting a licence is very high.

[James Deuce]

You can't use Scandanavian countries to compare NZ. It's usually done because of the social welfare systems that these countries have in effect, but our isn't anywhere near as good anymore. All the Scandanavian countries have industries that make our GDP per capita look very ugly indeed.

I've posted the figures before, but NZ has more sealed roads than any Scandinavian country per head of capita, and they are often much better roads. The Swedish rally invasion came about because Sweden used to have an extensive network of gravel roads as main highways, let alone secondary roads.

Norway has a very impressive rail infrastructure, and giant ferries that steam up and down the North Sea Coast and across the Baltic year round. Lou has already mentioned Italy's speed limit. It used to be 120 - they raised it to 130 and the accident rate went down, but as Lou said the policing of the more exuberent driving was more strictly enforced. Norway are not a country of drivers or riders. It is odd to find an enthusiast from that country, where Sweden is the opposite. Norway has a system of graduated speed limits that my wife found quite maddening when she was there, mostly because the open road speed limit is 80km/hr. Around the fjords this makes sense as the roads are terrible. Makes motorways a pain.

[Lou Girardin]

(1) You'll be disappointed to know it is about 20 years since I contibuted to said 'tax'

(2)And how do the roads in Sweden compare to ours?
And how tough is their licencing system?
And how much has their population and car numbers increased in the last 15 years?.

Ya got to compare apples with apples ya know.

ALL of Europe has tougher licencing regimes than here. Much more expensive as well, the most feared penalty in Italy is having to resit your licence.
The roads I saw were comparable with NZ, except that Autostradas are 3 lanes. Trucks only move out of the right lane to overtake ONE slower vehicle at a time, cars travelling at 110 - 120 stay in the middle lane, faster stuff has the left lane to themselves. There is a distinct lack of lane markings in cities, but the drivers know what they're doing and, more importantly, what others are doing. They stop for red lights! It was more relaxing being cabbed around the centre of Milan than anywhere in Auckland.