Police working to a quota?? Surely not...

[Str8 Jacket]

Sheesh, who CARES if it is represented? Whatever happens when YOU don't stop is on YOUR head.

And when you dont stop the other people that you ride with end up paying for your fuck up instead.

[Pixie]

The cops are lazy fucks.
A fax from an anonymous cop on the tv today said he was required to make 6 contacts an hour and write 3 tickets.
I'm sure he would be able to find sufficient reasons to stop motorists at that rate, other than for speed.
But they ignore most of the non speed infringements

[scumdog]

The cops are lazy fucks.
A fax from an anonymous cop on the tv today said he was required to make 6 contacts an hour and write 3 tickets.
I'm sure he would be able to find sufficient reasons to stop motorists at that rate, other than for speed.
But they ignore most of the non speed infringements

Yup we're lazy all right - who want's to argue with someone that says "It was orange when I went through" or "I never crossed over the yellow line" or "I DID indicate" when you can say "See, there's your speed sonny - and here's your ticket too"

BTW Did the fax say ALL tickets were to have a monatary penalty - as opposed to compliance "Idon't think so Tim"

Goin by Pixies comment from now on I'm going to ride on the wrong side of the road, fail to stop at stop signs and never indicate - as long as I'm not speeding I'll be right jack.

[Pixie]

Its not about revenue gathering or road safety, its all about getting more tickets than your colleagues so that you can make them shout the first round at the policemans ball!

NZ Police don't have balls

[Lou Girardin]

Of course warnings don't work. People don't consider 11 or 15 km/h over to be in any way dangerous.
Tickets don't stop them doing it either.

[Pixie]

Yup we're lazy all right - who want's to argue with someone that says "It was orange when I went through" or "I never crossed over the yellow line" or "I DI indicate" when you can say "See, there's your speed sonny - and here's your ticket too"

BTW Did the fax say ALL tickets were to have a monatary penalty - as opposed to compliance "Idon't think so Tim"

Goin by Pixies comment from now on I'm going to ride on the wrong side of the road, fail to stop at stop signs and never indicate - as long as I'm not speeding I'll be right jack.

The point I was making( the same as Ixion's) is that theyLook for the easy stuff they can get with the tech toys.
Why do you argue with motorists,anyway ?
If they go through a yellow,give them a ticket.
The fact that cops get into arguements with motorists,shows that they don't really feel that there is any point in the exercise of road enforcement and they are defensive about it

[sAsLEX]

Couldn't help but wonder if they were there for the yellow lines, not speed?????

well maybe they should actually put some thought behind where the lines are, best example is on SH2 yellow the whole fuckin way


and yesterday went past one set of yellow lines that was yellow along a nice good vis straight and ended just before a blind cresting corner , yellow lines should only be treated as rough suggestions now that they paint them everywhere

[scumdog]

The point I was making( the same as Ixion's) is that theyLook for the easy stuff they can get with the tech toys.
Why do you argue with motorists,anyway ?
If they go through a yellow,give them a ticket.
The fact that cops get into arguements with motorists,shows that they don't really feel that there is any point in the exercise of road enforcement and they are defensive about it

OK, I exaggerated - they rant, we walk (eventually), it's not an argument.

[Squeak the Rat]

well maybe they should actually put some thought behind where the lines are, best example is on SH2 yellow the whole fuckin way


and yesterday went past one set of yellow lines that was yellow along a nice good vis straight and ended just before a blind cresting corner , yellow lines should only be treated as rough suggestions now that they paint them everywhere

It's safer if motorists don't spend any time on the other side of the road. No thought is given to how unsafe it gets when people get pissed off with slow traffic though. I had an example similar to sAsLEX yesterday. Long straight road, recently double yellow'd. It was safe enough to pass so I did (quickly) - if i got pinged then so be it.

Trouble with that is that people start disbelieving yellow lines. They used to be a great tool to advise that there was actually a blind corner of dip in the road etc.

Personally I blame the lazy coppas....

[Quasievil]

Yup we're lazy all right - who want's to argue with someone that says "It was orange when I went through" or "I never crossed over the yellow line" or "I DID indicate" when you can say "See, there's your speed sonny - and here's your ticket too"

BTW Did the fax say ALL tickets were to have a monatary penalty - as opposed to compliance "Idon't think so Tim"

Goin by Pixies comment from now on I'm going to ride on the wrong side of the road, fail to stop at stop signs and never indicate - as long as I'm not speeding I'll be right jack.

I want to be clear by saying that Im only against the extreme policing of speed and the lack of discretion used these days by the HP. When it comes to offences like, crossing double yellow lines, failing to stop, dangerous overtaking, not giving way.......etc etc etc, I think if you do that you should get nailed, because overtaking on yellow lines is inviting a head on crash, failing to stop on a stop sign is inviting a crash, and so forth, bringing back the speeding issue, I fail to see how a person doing a minor offence of 112kmph on a nice piece of road in light traffic who is in obvious control of the situation is going to cause a crash (I hear a response before it is said,that being, it will likely cause a crash when someone fails to stop at a stop sign? fair enough, but that is still not the fault of the speeder its the fault of the stop sign runner and anyway it wouldnt of mattered if the speeder was going slower)

I wrote the above and am now going to take a change of tac............

If the speeder doing 112kmph was going along the nice bit of road approached a intersection and the other driver failed to stop and there was an impact, Okay the slighty speeding driver was breaking the law, to a higher degree the stop sign runner is breaking the law, ie both drivers could have been ticketed..........but werent, would the slightly speeding driver have survived if he was doing only 100kmph? well maybe, if he had been ticketed earlier and had corrected his/her speed would they still be alive???
well maybe.

So in saying all that and contridicting pretty much everything I have said thus far have I therefore justified the relentless ticketing regime?
maybe.
what say you people?

[Mr. Peanut]

She also attempted to put to rest accusations that police engage in "revenue collecting". "I've got no interest in the revenue. It's peanuts next to the cost of death, suffering and rehabilitation. It's peanuts."

Eh?

[eliot-ness]

Quote. I have no interest in the revenue. It's Peanuts. Quote

There you have it. Straight from the horses mouth as it were. It's all yours mate. Now go and collect it before she changes her mind.

[Mr. Peanut]

death, suffering and rehabilitation. It's peanuts

Therein lies the catch.

[James Deuce]

Quote. I have no interest in the revenue. It's Peanuts. Quote

There you have it. Straight from the horses mouth as it were. It's all yours mate. Now go and collect it before she changes her mind.

What a load of shit. There is no rehab available to accident victims. Suffering is dealt with by the individual. There's no one who gives a shit in the health system about chronic pain sufferers. Death? Covered by insurance mostly.

Our health system can't keep a gold medal winning paraplegic (Gold medal in the Commonwealth "abled" games I might add) alive past 60. Paralysed in a motorcycle accident. They (the pollies) can't use that argument and expect any sympathy for the revenue stance.

[SPman]

so - if we're caught speeding - can we just hand over a bag of dry roasted in lieu of a fine???