Coldest June since 1972....

[Big Dave]

Ahh, and you must be a 19 year old global climate expert!

I am sick of people who constantly believe the sky is falling when it clearly is not.

The notable scientists and organisations who are saying 'there is a problem' doesn't concern you?

[Mr. Peanut]

Ahh, and you must be a 19 year old global climate expert!

I am sick of people who constantly believe the sky is falling when it clearly is not.

I'm no expert, but the ironic comment about colder weather - global warming is misguided. If the weather is extreme then surely this is evidence of climate change.

And the sky fell a long time ago.

[Colapop]

I remember '72. Dammit!! I was about to start school. I think it snowed on the Taka's or somewhere close to Wainui (the old man never had enough dosh to take us to an actual mountain) but it was fun anyway. I remember the snow being soo cold and my fingers hurting. Dad drank beer with the guy from next door.

[sels1]

1972.....pedelling off to 3rd form in those horrible grey uniform shorts in the middle of winter....

Global warming = climate change = colder winters:
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ironic but true ...the extra heat energy transfering around the atmosphere causing more extreme weather events - Europe heat waves, Monsoon off track in Asia, USA hurricanes, and we got snow.

[Jantar]

The notable scientists and organisations who are saying 'there is a problem' doesn't concern you?

As a journalist I would have expected you to research infomation like this and not just repeat the political line.

Have a look at http://www.climatescience.org.nz/ and you'll see that the most respected climate scientists are not saying "there is a problem".

ironic but true ...the extra heat energy transfering around the atmosphere causing more extreme weather events - Europe heat waves, Monsoon off track in Asia, USA hurricanes, and we got snow.

However, if the global warming models are correct then there would be far fewer extreme weather events. The GW theory predicts that warming would commence in the polar regions then slowly move to the temperate areas then the sub-tropics. The equatorial regions would remain almost unchanged. Extreme weather patterns depend on a large temperature gradient. As the earth warms, the temperature gradient would decrease.

The effects you describe are more closely aligned with the el-nino/la-nina cycle than with GW.

[MattRSK]

The notable scientists and organisations who are saying 'there is a problem' doesn't concern you?

I would have to go with Augie Auer on that issue... Bullshit.

[Big Dave]

As a journalist I would have expected you to research infomation like this and not just repeat the political line.

Just like Time and Life magazines journalists didn't?
They sure don't agree with you.
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/03/26...ory/index.html
And neither do I.

Not sure what the National geographic society says currently - last time i looked it was 'careful'. They seem to do a bit of research too.

That's enough for me.

[Jantar]

Just like Time and Life magazines journalists didn't?
They sure don't agree with you.
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/03/26...ory/index.html
And neither do I.

Not sure what the National geographic society says currently - last time i looked it was 'careful'. They seem to do a bit of research too.

That's enough for me.

Time have had articles expressing beliefs in both direction. Life is more green biased, as is National Geographic. However even National Geographic have reported the international doubt on Mann's hockey stick model.

I would suggest that you read the actual scientific papers rather than rely on what is expressed in the public media.

[750Y]

My fire has been going non-stop... at the start of last year i split about 4 average years worth of wood, I will burn 3 years supply of wood this winter, dam 12 foot studs & no curtains!.

[Big Dave]

Time have had articles expressing beliefs in both direction. Life is more green biased, as is National Geographic. However even National Geographic have reported the international doubt on Mann's hockey stick model.

I would suggest that you read the actual scientific papers rather than rely on what is expressed in the public media.

No thanks - I don't care that much. You questioned my research - thats it.
Enough intelligent and professionally responsible people in publications I would dream of working for have looked at enough different science papers to be concerned.
That's all I need to know. That's all i am. I wouldn't like to go the way of the dinosaur.

I don't know if they (greenhouse gasses) are responsible - I do know that it's much easier to get sunburt now than when I was a kid - and I see the scum in the air over Waiheke yesterday and resolve I will try and reduce my own greenhouse gasses and continue to ride a modern efficient motorcycle.

Apart from that - whatever.

[Ixion]

I remember 1972 and how cold it was.. But everything was colder back then..
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My car? Pish! Ya wiped the frost off and kept a rag handy to wipe off the mist inside and that was it... Visor for ya helmet? What helmet?

If you cranked the windscreen open (yes, cars had opening windscreens then) you didn't have to worry about the mist.

I remember 1972. PA Velox, and the SpeedTwin.

'Twas a cold year , that, but I reckon 1954 was colder.

[myvice]

Ya old farts!
I wasn’t born for another two years!
‘Tis bloody cold now tho…

[Big Dave]

If you cranked the windscreen open (yes, cars had opening windscreens then) you didn't have to worry about the mist.

I remember 1972. PA Velox, and the SpeedTwin.

'Twas a cold year , that, but I reckon 1954 was colder.

It was already an old bike by then, the speed twin - 't bonneville had been around 13 years?

[Ixion]

I was poor. I couldn't afford new bikes. I got the speedTwin cheap cos it had a blown head gasket (gee, what a surprise. Blurdy 8 stud heads). Got the PA cheap cos it needed kingpins done. Welcome to my world.

[Big Dave]

I was poor. I couldn't afford new bikes. I got the speedTwin cheap cos it had a blown head gasket (gee, what a surprise. Blurdy 8 stud heads). Got the PA cheap cos it needed kingpins done. Welcome to my world.

My first road going effort was a CB450 that blew more blue smoke than a 2-stroke