So why don't we get a better deal from LTSA & service organizations like the AA ?
Hardcore Biker
So why don't we get a better deal from LTSA & service organizations like the AA ?
Forum whore
Go drive down Queen St or along Jervois Rd . You'll see heaps. People aren't buying them to ride 85km on main highwys, they're buying them to ride to work. (Yes I know your 85km is your commute to work, but we are talking the people who commute 5 or 10 km)Originally Posted by Motu
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I also don't see many in my ''inner city fringe'' suburb (Mt Roskill) but it's industrial here,people are working for a living,not engaged in frivolous activities.So it must be an inner city thing - which makes perfect sense,if I lived and worked in there I'd ride a scooter too.
Immature and proud of it.
It's all good. And the best part is the slap in the face for the AA. Remember how they told everyone not to buy 'dangerous' bikes?
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
One hell of a ride.
Partly because we have no unified voice.
We are trying to fix that via BRONZ at the moment.
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COuld you fix the BRONZ name while you're at it? I loathe the "Rights" part and all that it implies.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
One hell of a ride.
I don't think so - only because of so much that has already been done. And they have kicked some goals.
I think our rights is what the org should represent too. It's a political process - that's the issue.
I currently have a brief to submit a new logo. No guarantee it will be adopted.
explain 'loathe'?
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"Rights" imply demanding our "due". We are owed nothing. Our very existence is a privilege. "Rights" are the last reserve of the mindless, ignorant reactionary.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Immature and proud of it.
The right to a fair trial.
The right to a jury of your peers.
The right to a fair days pay for a fair days work.
The right to practice the religeon of your choice.
Mindless unecessary stuff alright.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Forum whore
No one has rights under a Westminster Parliamentary system. You're confusing NZ's political system with the US again. Mind you they don't actually have the rights they used to either.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Chump
Yes we have a Bill of Rights. Yes it is law. It even contains the word 'Rights' in it's title.
http://www.justice.govt.nz/pubs/othe...ill_rights.pdf
Sleep is for the weak.
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I have a right.
but I tend to sleep on the left.
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Unless you haven't noticed, it means squat. There are a bunch of laws that can be invoked in preference the the Bill of Rights that remove the rights if necessary.
Who invokes the Bill of Rights when they are breath tested without suspicion of wrong doing? When you are prevented from travelling from A to B because someone else is driving drunk somehwre? No-one because you can't. Your rights are superseded by another law.
A Constitution would fix that, but as can be seen in the US, even that can be conveniently side-stepped.
You have no rights in a Westminster Parliamentary system.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Chump
I suppose it depends on how much of a lawyer you want to be. In regards to the breath-testing thing, the Bill of Rights uses the words "You have the right not to be subjected to 'unreasonable search or seizure' and 'arbitary arrest or detention'". Do you think stopping people at alcohol checkpoints is a violation of this? Do you believe that it is an unreasonable seizure?
Sleep is for the weak.
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That's not thie issue. It always gets turned into a discussion about drunk driving, when the point I'm trying to make is NZ Politicians have no qualms or hesitation creating laws to sidestep other laws that may be inconvenient in implementing a policy.
How can we claim we have rights, when they can be removed at will by a collection of 120 people that most people on KB don't find to be representative?
My issue with the word "Rights" in the title of BRONZ is that it implies an attitude that Motorcyclists should be given special consideration over other road users. I don't like being associated with a Group that appears to want to impose its views on others. BRONZ didn't used to be representative of the "average" motorcyclist the last time I had anything to do with them in the early '90s, and given its moribund status in Wellington, I haven't seen a lot to indicate that that has changed.
Some of the things I have seen in Kiwi Rider over the last 12 months from BRONZ have been diametrically opposed to how I view myself as a motorcyclist, but BRONZ have the floor, so to speak, and getting involved in Wellington isn;t an option.
I am pleased that Big Dave and Ixion have stepped up though, because I KNOW them to be the sort of people I can trust to think before they speak an act.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
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