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    Quote Originally Posted by JATZ View Post
    Faaaaark you must ride like a nana I'd get about 2-2500 k's from a 760 on my Big, although mine was a blue one and everybody knows they were more powerfull than the orange ones I also used Dunlop 606, expensive, T63, Meh...alright once worn in, Mitas E-08, good for road work but a Shinko 705 would be better.
    Knobblies, it doesn't matter what you put on there, your going to kill it pretty soon and if it doesn't work, try something else
    I'd agree the miliage is good, I think the reason is 75% road at 34psi and 25% sand (which is not hard on tires)

    In regard to my nana riding perhaps Dino could shed some light on that,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10bikekid View Post
    I'd agree the miliage is good, I think the reason is 75% road at 34psi and 25% sand (which is not hard on tires)

    In regard to my nana riding perhaps Dino could shed some light on that,
    dont ask me, all i could see was dust
    'Good things come to those who wait'
    Bollocks, get of your arse and go get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino3310 View Post
    dont ask me, all i could see was dust
    Hah, sorry bought that, I dont get out a lot on the metal so needed to make it worth while

    Tore about 2000ks off the KTMs MT90 in 100ks or so as it was a full time job to try and stop wheelspin, failed meserable but it was fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10bikekid View Post
    They are up to 3,285Ks now and I'd say will get a warrant till about 4200ks Run 30-34psi 0n the road and drop down to 15-20 for sand etc
    How often ya "Winding the tap on" on the Big ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brp View Post
    How often ya "Winding the tap on" on the Big ?
    after seeing him on the ktm it might be a case of 'when does he wind it off'
    'Good things come to those who wait'
    Bollocks, get of your arse and go get it

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    Maybe that's the secret to tyre longevity - just keep it pinned and the kinetic energy of ya rear just bulldozers through everything , runs that hot
    melts everything in its path without much detriment to itself

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    Oh if that were true!

    Points for wishful thinking but.
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    Wishful thinking alright

    10bikekid must just have his idle screw turned up and rides his Big round like that to get 4000 k's plus out of a wide spread knobblie

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    Secret to high tire miliage

    Quote Originally Posted by brp View Post
    Wishful thinking alright

    10bikekid must just have his idle screw turned up and rides his Big round like that to get 4000 k's plus out of a wide spread knobblie
    Secret is Sand

    About once or twice a mouth I head from home to Murawai beach 90ks round trip, then I head up beach to South head, drop tire pressures to about 20psi and climb the dunes, sit at the top a drink a V and munch on a peanut slab and return to gas station pump up tires and back home, 110 ks round trip, do some other trips with a bit more seal than sand with some metal but not often (Rimmers road via beach)

    So I'm guessing 2500ks on road 1500 on sand (no point in thrashing bike on way to beach except in corners where tire is on it side so not to much wear and Sand is near zero wear so running up the beach at between 100 - 150kph and then up the dunes is cheap in tire cost
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    Just love the Desolateness of it all at South Head and am often on my own up there in the morning before all the 4WD guys arrive (in the Winter cold or rain still do the trip but in 4wd with heater on, think those tires will last 40,000 ks
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    OK you tyre Gurus, Ive finally managed to grace my shed with a DR650, Its got an EO7 on the rear and a Dunlop 605 on the front which at 22 psi has got a noticeable bulge when im perched on it, (Im only 100KG). Suzi recommend 22 psi but it seems a bit soft.
    Is the 605 a naturally soft tyre or is the tyre telling me its past its use by date, its still got good tread on it.
    The only other thing is, when i got it home, the front had only 14psi in it and the back had 17psi. the previous owner had been using it as a commuter bike for work so it may have done a lot of ks at low pressure and buggered the compound of the tyre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waipukbiker View Post
    OK you tyre Gurus, Ive finally managed to grace my shed with a DR650, Its got an EO7 on the rear and a Dunlop 605 on the front which at 22 psi has got a noticeable bulge when im perched on it, (Im only 100KG). Suzi recommend 22 psi but it seems a bit soft.
    Is the 605 a naturally soft tyre or is the tyre telling me its past its use by date, its still got good tread on it.
    The only other thing is, when i got it home, the front had only 14psi in it and the back had 17psi. the previous owner had been using it as a commuter bike for work so it may have done a lot of ks at low pressure and buggered the compound of the tyre.

    Cheers
    it should be ok, but if you're not sure strip down the rear & make sure the tyre wall is not damaged, if it's any help I run Eo7's on the 1150 which weighs 250kg wet then you can add 20kgs for gear & me 129kg & I run 20/18 unless I'm on a road trip then 30/30 & I've had no probs with them
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    Road use, I'd be looking at 26f/28r for that tyre combo.
    Seal/gravel, more toward 22f/24r.
    Off road, around 20f/18r.

    These assume no luggage, or only a small backpack.

    If the tubes are holding air then the low pressures shouldn't have had and deleterious effect on the tyre carcass, just accelerated wear on the tread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10bikekid View Post
    Secret is Sand

    sit at the top a drink a V and munch on a peanut slab
    "Good On Ya BoY"

    Wonder sand is not abrasive when they use it for sand blasting (Like you on the Big )

    Still good going no matter how you do it - "Be good night nurse" in less than 1K that rear on back of XR

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    Are road tires must be different to trail tires ??

    Heat is the big wear factor for the road so Ideal pressures for 1000cc bikes for wear (rear tires) 38-42 psi, when we drop them to 28-30 for track days they get hotter grip better but wear a lot faster (not to mention the thrashing they are getting)

    Its stands to reason ? that if you run lower pressures on trail tires on the road the same thing will happen, they will get hotter and softer and wear faster (spending more of your money)

    I noticed this some years ago that by adding 5-10 psi to my sloppy 25 psi pressures, Tire wear on the road reduced considerable over the life the tire.
    I run these rear pressure now on road DRBIG 32-34psi, KTM950 37-38 and reduce front by 2-4 psi getting very good tire life, even with spirited riding at times

    Means more fiddling at gas stations and with tire gauges on the trail but better for the pocket

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    Quote Originally Posted by brp View Post
    "Good On Ya BoY"

    Wonder sand is not abrasive when they use it for sand blasting (Like you on the Big )

    Still good going no matter how you do it - "Be good night nurse" in less than 1K that rear on back of XR
    I'd rather be pelted by sand than gravel and stones,

    IMHO You wont get better off-road grip (at 15-20 psi) but be prepare for unusual turn in on road as not a very rounded profile (at 30+ psi of course), I think its fun and compensate by leaning off the bike, but it takes a little getting used to

    Added bonus is that you don't need music as tires sing nicely

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