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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Incidentally Mitas used to be known as Barum
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    MITAS a.s. currently consists of three plants one in Prague, the other in Zlín and Otrokovice.

    These plants produce tyres for farm machinery, off-the-road machines and construction machinery, for motorcycles, high-lift trucks, light-goods vehicles and some airplanes. The plant in Zlín also belongs among the important world producers of V-belts.
    MITAS Praha was established in 1933 in Prague-Strašnice as a subsidiary of Michelin. Michelin held a 75% interest, while the rest was held by Czechoslovak banks. Michelin had been attracted to Prague by the skilled manpower, which had became available owing to the economic recession. The new plant gradually increased the number of Czech employees up to 250. They made tyres and tubes for cars, motorcycles and bikes. Production in the plant reached its peak in 1937, making about 300 car and motorcycle tyres and almost 100 bike tyres (and tubes) a day.

    During the war the plant was seized by Harburger Phîix, which focused on military production including, first of all, the hard rubber coating of metal parts. When the German management hastily left the plant in May 1945, the plant gradually returned to a civil product range and later on it was nationalised. In spring 1946 it was re-named to Pneumichelin, n.p. Praha. At the turn of the years 1946/1947, a contest was launched to find a new name for the plant. MITAS was the winning proposal, combing the words MIchelin and VeriTAS. Veritas, located at Hrádek nad Nisou, had been making rubber tyres for pram wheels and had been included in the Michelin group in 1946. The brand name MITAS has been used since summer 1947.
    New machines and equipment were gradually installed and commissioned during 1949-1952. Preparations for extending the production of medium to heavy truck tyres continued simultaneously. The bicycle tyre unit was spun off under Rubena Náchod. The passenger car tyre production unit in Prague was closed in 1957 and in 1958 the plant was transferred to the newly created company, České závody gumárenské, which also covered Rubena Náchod and Gumokov Hradec Králové. By 1967, when an extensive restructuring of the company was completed, the company had won a good position among the leading European rubber companies. Later the company also introduced the production of tyres for construction machinery. In March 1985, a fire destroyed the factory s most important part the rubber mixing plant. Two years later a new automated mixing plant began being built and was fully commissioned in 1993. Meanwhile the company became a national enterprise and, later, a joint-stock company.

    The tradition of tyre production in the current MITAS production unit in Zlín was established by Tomáš Baťa early in the 1930s. Equipment was delivered from abroad to Zlín in Jauary 1932 and in April the first 32x6 tyre was moulded there. A year later Baťa built a tyre plant in Zlín, which made 68,000 tyres of 43 sizes in the second half of 1934. In 1935 the plant doubled its output and the Baťa tyres were mounted on all Czech cars a situation not favouring the import of tyres from abroad. In 1939 Baťa made 250 thousand tyres annually and introduced also the production of V-belts, conveyer belts and technical rubber.
    In 1945, the Baťa company was nationalised and in 1949 it was renamed to Svit. The production of tyres was separated in 1953 to establish a separate company, named Rudý Šíjen (Red October). In 1967 the Zlín plant produced the first passenger-car radial tyre and five years later a large new plant for tyre production was opened at Otrokovice near Zlín.

    A new joint-stock company, Barum Holding, was established in 1991 with participation of MITAS Praha, the Czech Ministry of Industry, Barum Otrokovice, OP Barum Zlín, and Motokov Praha. Several years later Continental acquired a majority interest in the Otrokovice tyre plant, whereas the Zlín tyre plant, named Barumtech (later renamed to Beltyr) remained under the Barum Holding. Česká gumárenská společnost gradually developed from Barum Holding, whereas MITAS Praha merged with Beltyr Zlín to form a new single entity. An extensive restructuring programme (MITAS 2004) has been under way in MITAS for the fourth year now as one of the few companies in the Czech Republic, MITAS was awarded investment incentives from the Czech government for that programme. In 2002, MITAS launched the production of radial tyres for tractors and MPT radial tyres of the all-steel type.

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    Thats a good company history. I just hope Continental don't meddle, or asset strip it.

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    ...When the German management hastily left the plant in May 1945...
    ROTFLMAO!!!
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    Mitas EO7's

    Fitted Mitas E07's to the Freewind today (100/90 19 front & 130/80 17 rear).
    Went for a short blat on some gravel & amazing improvement to stability & traction, although I"m only comparing them to previous Metzler Tourance front & Mitas EO8 rear.
    Big test tommorrow when loaded up for the "long way round" to the Pissed Penguin, via heaps of gravel & hills etc. Will report impressions after that.

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    The Shinko went on the back today (inc @200g of lead)

    Feels nice on the gravel and hills, good over the wet rocks and transitions nice and smoothly on the seal.

    After a few rides I'll get it back on the balancer and see if there's a difference as I got the feeling it needed getting a bit of heat into it and a bit of a low pressure workout to settle.

    So far, I like...

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    Damn!
    I like the tire but don't like this bit...
    Would be fine but it looks like it into the carcass


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    Thats a bit of bad luck NB.
    Looks like a compression split. Thats the new Shinko?

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    Yep, Shinko 244.

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    Try for a warranty claim. I'm picking the rubber split due to weakness in that knob.
    Can't see any obvious cut/side puncture.
    Can only hope that your supplier is a reasonable shop.
    Even large Cat Dump truck tyres would suffer similar failures, and at $20,000 a tyre, you would expect them to be well made.

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    Havn't paid for it yet

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    Mitas EO7's

    Four days (loaded bike) on gravel, seal & a bit of slippery clay. Also included some grass paddocks in the course of some work calls. Ran 20psi in front & 25psi rear.
    I'm absolutly rapt with these tyres - fantastic all-rounders. Great value for money too - $120 front & $140 rear.

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    Has any one had any experience with the Metzeler Karroo (off road) tyres?

    They write them up well for the road too and they are in the Tiger sizes.

    Worth a try? Maybe some of you already have, any comments? Thanks, John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Has any one had any experience with the Metzeler Karroo (off road) tyres?
    I used a set of the first edition on the Honda Dominator, off-road they were great, but wore comparatively fast... seems to be a common synopsis. They've been updated since then, and split into two types, although the sizes are very similar. They're definitely a big bike tyre; unlike all the Asian cheapies they come in 140/80s and 150/70s.

    The Karoo looks more off-road.


    The Karoo T seems slightly more street focussed, judging by appearance and the description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Has any one had any experience with the Metzeler Karroo (off road) tyres?

    They write them up well for the road too and they are in the Tiger sizes.

    Worth a try? Maybe some of you already have, any comments? Thanks, John.
    I killed one in 850km of hard riding on my 640.
    That's quick even for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Damn!
    I like the tire but don't like this bit...
    Would be fine but it looks like it into the carcass

    hey NB it looks like you were running low psi 1 of my EO7 looked like that after i had been running low psi on rough ground it looks like a stress fracture
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