Tyre choice for adventure riding? (Mixing road and off-road)

[dino3310]

Your speaking in riddles man, what brands (Im unejamicated when it comes to trail tires but know what an S12 is )

RE;DR, will be ready for you to ride soon but I still reserve the right to take it home at night

if i remember correctly i had a Mitas E-09 on the rear and it went well although not as aggressive as the kenda it performed well both on and off road

[10bikekid]

The S12 isn't so good in rooty terrain though.
The offset side knobs are too high and don't let the root/branch get down to the carcass to give the knobs a paddle style bite.

Soft terrain, they're fantastic. Lasted for about 5 years of racing on the XR

Perhaps less high speed compression damping is required to compensate for roots (says he pretending he actually can tell what that is)

[brp]

The offset side knobs are too high and don't let the root/branch get down to the carcass to give the knobs a paddle style bite.

Interesting point - cheers

Cannot see how you will get much life out of that 760 if you use it on seal .... E09 as suggested be better all round tyre

Getting over tree roots more about grip than suspension ....

[NordieBoy]

Interesting point - cheers

Cannot see how you will get much life out of that 760 if you use it on seal .... E09 as suggested be better all round tyre

Getting over tree roots more about grip than suspension ....

I prefer the 705 as a better all round tyre. But everyone knows that

The 760 has a good paddle type section for roots etc and good side knobs too.

I'd expect about 1 Dusty Butt out of a 760 rear including the trip down and back.

[cooneyr]

I prefer the 705 as a better all round tyre. But everyone knows that

The 760 has a good paddle type section for roots etc and good side knobs too.

I'd expect about 1 Dusty Butt out of a 760 rear including the trip down and back.

Yer but if it snows along the Lammerlaw range again I bet you would prefer to have the 760 over the 705! Definitely recommend a new tyre, it you run knobblies, at the start of the DB1k. So many km with such a big mix of terrain that they tend to get a hammering.

Just to chuck another tyre into the mix - I'm reasonably impressed with a Mitas C02 as an all round adv tyre. Bit squirmy when new on the seal cause the block are about 20mm high but seem to last bloody well and have pretty decent all round traction. Reasonably cheep too (bit over $100 from memory). They do look a bit basic/old fashioned but don't be put off. I really like the rubber compound, "rubbery" but tough, not plasticy like the MT21 which I reckon ruins the MT21's traction, or soft like the D606 or TKC80 which tend to melt when they get hot (higher pressures make a big difference to decrease heat in the tyre). This rubber compound seems to be common to Mitas adv orientated tyres i.e. E09 and E07.

Cheers R

[_Shrek_]

I'm reasonably impressed with a Mitas C02 as an all round adv tyre. Bit squirmy when new on the seal cause the block are about 20mm high but seem to last bloody well and have pretty decent all round traction. Reasonably cheep too (bit over $100 from memory). They do look a bit basic/old fashioned but don't be put off. I really like the rubber compound, "rubbery" but tough, not plasticy like the MT21 which I reckon ruins the MT21's traction, or soft like the D606 or TKC80 which tend to melt when they get hot (higher pressures make a big difference to decrease heat in the tyre). This rubber compound seems to be common to Mitas adv orientated tyres i.e. E09 and E07.

Cheers R

have you got a pic R & do they come in 150/70x17 tubbless, not that I need any more tyre's as I still have the E10's, E09 & a TKC 80 to use up am back running E07's untill the DB

[cooneyr]

have you got a pic R & do they come in 150/70x17 tubbless, not that I need any more tyre's as I still have the E10's, E09 & a TKC 80 to use up am back running E07's untill the DB

Not the right size for your beast mate. Use the "other" tyre sizing, largest in NZ is 120/90-18 which is about 140/80-18 equivalent.



From DAS or LMS (though not listed on their site).

Mine had a good thrashing on the 2012 DB1k, did the Long Way Around around Taupo (1500km from Welly to Welly) and been for a couple of good strops around Canty. Still around 1/3rd left. I've heard and read they are hard to kill. Blocks get larger as they wear out i.e. less off road traction but more wear resistance.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Yes, would prefer it there, but for the rest?

705's baby!

Or Pirelli MT43's

[10bikekid]

Interesting point - cheers

Cannot see how you will get much life out of that 760 if you use it on seal .... E09 as suggested be better all round tyre

Getting over tree roots more about grip than suspension ....

They are up to 3,285Ks now and I'd say will get a warrant till about 4200ks Run 30-34psi 0n the road and drop down to 15-20 for sand etc

[10bikekid]

if i remember correctly i had a Mitas E-09 on the rear and it went well although not as aggressive as the kenda it performed well both on and off road

They look good but hard to get in Auck (didn't have that on rear when I picked up the old girl)

[dino3310]

They look good but hard to get in Auck (didn't have that on rear when I picked up the old girl)

i use to ring the LMS dude and order over the phone....
(2 owners after me before you)

[JATZ]

They are up to 3,285Ks now and I'd say will get a warrant till about 4200ks Run 30-34psi 0n the road and drop down to 15-20 for sand etc

Faaaaark you must ride like a nana I'd get about 2-2500 k's from a 760 on my Big, although mine was a blue one and everybody knows they were more powerfull than the orange ones I also used Dunlop 606, expensive, T63, Meh...alright once worn in, Mitas E-08, good for road work but a Shinko 705 would be better.
Knobblies, it doesn't matter what you put on there, your going to kill it pretty soon and if it doesn't work, try something else

[That looks like fun]

Took the C-18 for its test ride today Roads (sealed) were wet and shitty, gravel was hard packed and
Yep she was a bit squirrely on the seal
On the gravel was
And when I found some mud
I was right, those tyres can shift shit from one place and throw it to another rurlly goud
Best I get to wearing out that trailwing on the front so I can keep the bugger pointed in the right direction









No comment on tyre life yet

[warewolf]

Do I sacrifice that much offroad grip for the better road manners of the Kenda K784 Trail tire (which also happen to cost nearly twice as much)
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/product...rail_tyre.aspx

Google "kenda big block"... enjoy!

S12 is what ive been using for the XR, not to bad on the seal if ya careful

S12s (or more correctly, S12XC now) are fsckin terrible on hardpack. They're just wrong. Ride them back to back with an intermediate (M12XC) let alone a hard-terrain tyre and you'll understand why. They're skittish as hell. Once the surface starts to break up they become tolerable, but an intermediate would still be better.

The S12 isn't so good in rooty terrain though.
The offset side knobs are too high and don't let the root/branch get down to the carcass to give the knobs a paddle style bite.

Soft terrain, they're fantastic.

Yep, soft terrain they're fantastic, which is why they're so popular around here!! But you'd expect that, given they're a soft terrain tyre. No soft terrain tyre works on tree roots. The knob spacings to evacuate mud and punch in to the surface just don't work. Square-on, the paddle effect works ok, but is utterly diabolical at an angle, because the root falls in to the spaces between tread blocks, so the tyre catches on the root and the whole plot goes sideways rather than forwards. Intermediates or hards have much better knob spacings for that sort of carry-on: more checkerboard than paddle steamer.

They do look a bit basic/old fashioned but don't be put off.

Some old school tread patterns work really, really well, eg Metzeler Lasertec's straight herringbone pattern which disperses water like nothing else... but looks ancient. Unfortunately fashion and marketing have a lot to do with tread design, as distinct from performance.

[dino3310]

S12s (or more correctly, S12XC now) are fsckin terrible on hardpack. They're just wrong. Ride them back to back with an intermediate (M12XC) let alone a hard-terrain tyre and you'll understand why. They're skittish as hell. Once the surface starts to break up they become tolerable, but an intermediate would still be better.

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brought for budget not performance, 3 tyres for $5.