Tyre choice for adventure riding? (Mixing road and off-road)

[10bikekid]

6k on a BRP

just ordered me a shinko244 a mate who chews tyres is having a good run out of his so it should last me a while...... hopefully

Cool. perhaps try running the rear up around 30psi on road and gravel, your pocket may thank you. if its to loose could allways drop 5psi and try that

KTMs rear scorpion got ripped to shreads on our last ride at 25psi (though it is nearly 100kg heavier than XR)
but I just needed that much grip to stay on the road (will go back to 30 next time and live with it so dont come out other end with a slick)

[dino3310]

i always run whats written on the tyre, sometimes i drop the pressures for of road but most of the time im just cruizing so dont find the need to lower pressures

[dino3310]

new shinko244 arrived today, not a bad looking tyre, a bit more aggressive than the trailwings i was running.
was supprised to see 'Golden boy' on the tyre though

[NordieBoy]

new shinko244 arrived today, not a bad looking tyre, a bit more aggressive than the trailwings i was running.
was supprised to see 'Golden boy' on the tyre though

Wholesale price on the fronts was $25 a few years ago.

I only get about 5,000km from a rear.

[dino3310]

Wholesale price on the fronts was $25 a few years ago.

I only get about 5,000km from a rear.

i'd be rapped to get 5k out of it

[warewolf]

Hey colin is a 510x18 the same as a 130x 18

Yes. 5.10 is a low-profile (80-ish %) 5.00: 5 x 25.4 = 127, so 130/80 in ETRTO but 110/100 in the ISO system.

Similarly, 5.60 is a low-profile 5.50: 5.5 x 25.4 = 139.7, aka 140/80 in ETRTO or 120/100 in ISO.

[warewolf]

i always run whats written on the tyre, sometimes i drop the pressures for of road but most of the time im just cruizing so dont find the need to lower pressures

WHOA! The max pressure marked on the tyre is the max possible for the tyre on any vehicle. It's usually a long way north of the vehicle's recommended pressures.

e.g. max for T63 is 40 psi, but the recommended pressure for my bike is 29. That tyre's max is a whopping 38% higher!! 40 psi would be impossibly hard. The bike's recommended pressures are already for on-road use, even on a dual-purpose bike.

You've gotta do what works for you, but I would be very, very wary of a variance that far from the manufacturer's recommendation.

[warewolf]

I cant be bothered looking through all the reviews for tyres much now as for every person that reckons a particular tyre is the best thing since canned beer, there is some else that reckons its a piece of crap. Its whatever works for each person on their particular bike.

Yep, that's the trick of it. Finding someone who rides like you do on a similar bike and similar terrain. Or whose recommendations have worked in the past.

[dino3310]

Yes. 5.10 is a low-profile (80-ish %) 5.00: 5 x 25.4 = 127, so 130/80 in ETRTO but 110/100 in the ISO system.

Similarly, 5.60 is a low-profile 5.50: 5.5 x 25.4 = 139.7, aka 140/80 in ETRTO or 120/100 in ISO.

awesome mate thanks for that

[brp]

Cheers warewolf for your insight on tyres - never really thought about the length of the tyre increasing when you let air out - just the width

Dino - yeah E07 prob only tyre you will get 6K out of on a pig

10bikekid - what torque your big cubed KTM putting out ? Think problem with XR and tyre wear is puts out lot of torque but the ass end is light so
end up with a skimming effect on the knobs instead of biting down more - (Must put more energy into transferring my ass end to back of seat more regular)

[10bikekid]

Cheers warewolf for your insight on tyres - never really thought about the length of the tyre increasing when you let air out - just the width

Dino - yeah E07 prob only tyre you will get 6K out of on a pig

10bikekid - what torque your big cubed KTM putting out ? Think problem with XR and tyre wear is puts out lot of torque but the ass end is light so
end up with a skimming effect on the knobs instead of biting down more - (Must put more energy into transferring my ass end to back of seat more regular)

KTM twin is not really about torque, it has it for sure (particularly once FMF pipes were fitted and carbs rejetted to suit)

But its more about HP (aprox 95 rwhp) so its spins up pretty hard all the time and probable is spinning about 50% of the time when punted hard on the metal, Impossible to get good wear from tire in that situation.

Someone suggested to us less throttle but didnt think much of that idea

I would generally use DR750 in these situations as is more manageable but is in w/shop at the mo so had to make do with Ktm , but will rethink that in future as fun factor was through the roof





Tire looked quite a bit fresher than this before the 100ks of metal road punishment

[brp]

Like dudes signature on here - torque wins races - hp is for sales ... something to that effect

Isn't torque bigger tyre wear factor than HP ? So it huss's up the KTM - you like speed demon, smoke trails ?

I'd be running to the ktm

[10bikekid]

Like dudes signature on here - torque wins races - hp is for sales ... something to that effect

Isn't torque bigger tyre wear factor than HP ? So it huss's up the KTM - you like speed demon, smoke trails ?

I'd be running to the ktm

Its an interesting subject torque V hp. (both are probably best)

I did a little test before I fitted pipes to KTM as was sure DR was torquer, had a friend ride the DR and we did roll ons from different speeds in top gear (on the beach) and to my suprise no matter how low in the revs we went the KTM always pulled away imediatley and would then promply march off into the distance.

Still like riding DR and of course its a lot lighter for offroading, but my primary reason for having both is so I dont have to change tires, if its soft and low traction take the DR, if its a long way away take KTM and stay away from low traction situations.

Both are fun in different ways and I'm into thumpers just as much as the next guy (but please dont ask me to choose)

[brp]

I'd just naturally go for biggest cubes Biggest explosion

Its like a set of old fashion balancing scales - increase the HP decrease the Torque - well thats what a mate told me - knows a thing or two though

If it was at the TAB your run down the beach - I would of put 1k on the nose for the KTM - its like comparing xr400 and xr600 - still large percentage more of explosion going on .

[10bikekid]

I'd just naturally go for biggest cubes Biggest explosion

Its like a set of old fashion balancing scales - increase the HP decrease the Torque - well thats what a mate told me - knows a thing or two though

If it was at the TAB your run down the beach - I would of put 1k on the nose for the KTM - its like comparing xr400 and xr600 - still large percentage more of explosion going on .

You make a good point

have seen 205kph(127mph) on the KTM speedo in the sand (on a private beach of course) so you would probable win that bet easily.

other side of the coin twins spin up quicker than singles (even if they had the same touque) and in low traction dont grip as well so DR with same tires in mud would make a mockery of any twin

horses for courses