'Reservoir Dogs' game banned, I am pissed

[MattRSK]

There is a $2000 fine for anyone found with the game. Its 5.00 in the morning haha.

[Skyryder]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,...3a7873,00.html

I am not happy. Gonna have to do something.

-Indy

My sentiments entirely. I have never played the game and going by mrpeanuts description of the game I am unlikely to do so. However if IJ choses to play this game then he should have that right............but for whatever that has been taken away from him. One set of values have been used to overide another set. But there is a relevent point here on censorship that those that believe that this game should be banned seemed to have missed; censorship has been applied to someones imagination. I J plays this game for enjoyment, rap while I don't like it is a type of music that some people enjoy. Both the lyrics of rap and the outcome of the game are the result of imagination. This is a far cry from pornograpy where degregation takes place to varying degrees and in the worst kind of kind of porn criminal acts take place. Should books that describe events that are unlawfu be banned. At present I'm reading the Historian. This is about Vlad the Impaler. Pretty bloody graphic prose should this be banned? Should comics that picture events that are unlawfull or sadistic (Marvel comics come to mind) be banned. So the game also has some sadistic elements to it. Not my idea of entertainment..............but since no suffering of any kind takes place I can not see the point of censorship.
Neither should a game. Hell walk into any games arcade and you see games being played that if carried out on the street you'd be locked up for life. Should we ban arcade games soley on violence content.? Who does not like a good shoot'em up??

I think society as a whole needs to give careful consideration before it condones the censorship of the imagination.

Skyryder

[sAsLEX]

There is a $2000 fine for anyone found with the game. Its 5.00 in the morning haha.

How are we meant to know its banned?! They havent sent me a letter, so we my cousin sends me a copy from overseas.......

[hXc]

Postal, Postal2, and Man Hunt: Anybody have these games? I used to have Postal2 but lost it.

This PC nanny state bullshit is getting worse by the minute! As Skyryder stated: It's someone's imagination and they're taking it away. "My brain giveth, my country taketh away."

And if people can't tell the difference between a game and reality, then they are mentally unfit. And therefore, shouldn't be in a normal environment where they can cause harm to other people. But PC sucks, so instead of taking the harmful people out, they take the normal people's fun away. Bastards.

Rant over

[Lou Girardin]

Bloody sick crap. If you play stuff like this you have a problem.

[hXc]

If you play stuff like this you have a problem.

Can you back that statement up?

[Smokin]

Ive got postal 2 running with sizzors somewhere, unless I biffed it. The novalty ran out pretty quickly and the game actually was generally crap...

You hit the nail on the head there mate, It was only installed for a couple of days here, Fun to start with but wore off quickly.

[sAsLEX]

You hit the nail on the head there mate, It was only installed for a couple of days here, Fun to start with but wore off quickly.

I clocked one of the postals as it was the only game i had a the time.


Whats worse seeing some made up stuff on the computer?

Or watching the family violoence etc that occurs in many of the homes around new zealand, babies Kahu?

[Lias]

I have copies of Postal 2 and Manhunt around here somewhere.. Also downloaded a few "banned movies" to see what all the fuss was about (Visitor Q and Baise Moi). Totally failed to see why any of them was banned..

I've been playing computer games, most of them violent since a young age. As have most of my work colleagues. Were geeks, its what we do. Yet none of us has ever gone on a postal rampage and killed all our co-workers, hell most of my colleagues dont even have crimincal records :-)

Anyone who says playing violent videos games makes you a psychopath is the same sort off anally retentive christian moral majority plonkers who said exactly the same thing about playing Dungeons and Dragons or listening to Judas Priest.

In short, up yours to anyone who approves of censorship like this, and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your genitals.

Rant over, now i'm annoyed so I need to go slaughter some innocent police officers in a game banned, of which many also let you kill piggies.

[WINJA]

My sentiments entirely. However if IJ choses to play this game then he should have that right............but for whatever that has been taken away from him. One set of values have been used to overide another set.

I think society as a whole needs to give careful consideration before it condones the censorship of the imagination.

Skyryder

WHAT ABOUT CHILD PORN ? SHOULD THAT BE BANNED OR CENSORED? WHAT ABOUT THE KIDDY FIDDLERS RIGHTS? THIS GAME WAS BANNED FOR THE PUBLICS GOOD NOT THE SICKO GAMERS GOOD , JUST PLAY SOMETHING ELSE

[thehollowmen]

I wouldn't be surprised to see this on trademe, as pre-orders from international companies will still be shipped out.

[Lias]

WHAT ABOUT CHILD PORN ? SHOULD THAT BE BANNED OR CENSORED? WHAT ABOUT THE KIDDY FIDDLERS RIGHTS? THIS GAME WAS BANNED FOR THE PUBLICS GOOD NOT THE SICKO GAMERS GOOD , JUST PLAY SOMETHING ELSE

Comparing child molestation to computer games is retarded, even for you Winja. Kiddie fuckers hurt children, gamers sitting in front of a PC dont. Simple really.

PS: If anyone else wants to complain about this decision:
http://www.censorship.govt.nz/feedback.asp

This was what I submited:
I just want to know why Bill Hastings thinks mature, adult gamers shouldnt be allowed to play violent video games. No one interferes with what he and his boyfriend do in the privacy of their home, why should he interfere in what I do in the privacy of my computer room? Banning any computer game, purely for its level of violence is unacceptable, not to mention completely futile because it WILL be downloaded by any geek who wants to play it, just like Postal 2 and Manhunt were. All your really doing is supporting Piracy LOL.

[Ixion]

There is a sound argument that can be made for having no censorship. I personally do have reservations when governments start banning things "for the public good".

You ask whether kiddyporn should be banned? Well, I will turn that back, by asking you why it should?

Should things be banned because you think they are nasty? Many , on that basis, would ban anything sexual.

Do you want to look at kiddyporn? I am sure you do not, and nor do most people. So the ban is hardly for the public benefit , is it. As far as the general public are concerned the ban means nothing since they are disinterested in the subject matter.

So is that the justification for the ban? That "mainstream NZ" is not interested in the subject, and considers it "nasty". The same argument could be made for banning all homosexual content.

Or is the justification, that people will become child abusers if the stuff is not banned? But, if "normal" (emotively loaded word, but necessary shorthand) people will not bother to look at it, how can that be? Or is the argument that kiddyfiddlers, if deprived of their "porno fix" will abandon their kiddyfiddling ways and turn "straight".Which seems improbable , but I am open to convincing, if evidence can be provided.

In the case of "Reservoir Dogs" (which I know nothing about , except what has been discussed here), is it banned because "normal" people might somehow be "exposed" to it, and it somehow will turn "normal" folk into mass murderers? Or because those who intend to go out on a murder rampage will be prevented from doing so by not being able to view it?

Is Mr Indiana Jones a potential mass murderer, saved from himself by a benevolent Government ban? Or a harmless soul who would have been turned INTO a mass murderer had he played this game? Or neither?

If I should happen to watch over Mr Jones shoulder and see this game, would it turn ME into a mass murderer?

Has ANYONE ever been turned into a mass murderer by playing a video game? Or have any potential mass murderer ever been prevented from murderous rampage by inability to access a video game?

"I am not interested in that, and I don't like the subject" is not IMHO a valid basis for censorship (or moderation either, but that's another topic)

[Lou Girardin]

Can you back that statement up?

The US Army uses video training to dehumanise the 'enemy'. Makes it easier to kill people.
The whole vid game industry caters to peoples darker fantasies, it make the step to reality a little easier for those inclined that way.

[onearmedbandit]

So do comics, movies, tv, advertising. I remember reading those small war comics as a child, wonder why I never went out and bagged me a few Germans?