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ClickyOriginally Posted by scumdog
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I don't know what is causing people to act like idiots in this day and age but I don't know if it is video games.
I think a bigger problem is a lack of decent parenting.
Bring on the breeder licenses.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
Slower than Ixion
I quite enjoyed the original Postal.
Although pissing of hookers til they puked wore off pretty quickly. I did thoroughly enjoy taking out Gary Coleman. Damn, he was a seriously hard little fucker to kill.
As for the whole cencorship debate. What I've seen in this thread is exactly why I agree totally with Comrad Ixion.
I seriously think a kiddy porn version of Godwin's Law exists. I've yet to see a debate on censorship not revert (by the pro-censor brigade) to comparing whatever was censored to kiddy porn, and therefore somehow (illogically) try to compare the person who thinks the sensored item shouldn't have been banned condones kiddy-fucking.
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Technology is slowly blurring the line between imagination and reality....
Forum whore
Only too those whose vision is already blurred. See, I can tell quite easily the difference between pushing a button on my mouse to 'fire' a gun at someone, and actually obtaining a weapon in real life and shooting at people from my car.
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Not arguing that, but I'm wondering what it will be like in x years time when when the gaming nirvana of virtual reality becomes what it promises - virtually indistinguishable from reality....
Forum whore
I'm not really an advocate of censorship so I find it hard to agree with the banning of a computer game, whatever the content.
I do think that personal responsibility is a huge factor in this sort of situation but the nanny state we live in these days, along with the PC bullshit ("it wasn't his fault, he hard a tough upbringing"), is more responsible for the behaviour of these fuckwits than the seeds planted by uncensored violence.
Perhaps if the drongos that glorify and get a hard on for this crap saw perpetrators of real violence being publicly executed then their understanding of individual accountability might be heightened??
Rather than the fine upstanding revenue collectors taking an age to catch them and the justice system giving them 3 square meals, sky tv and heated floors.
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It is always distinguishable from reality. In reality, it hurts when they shoot back at you.
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At the present time yes. But it is entirely feasible that at some point in the future technology could be employed to cause pain in a virtual reality environment.
I'm not talking about boring old screens, keyboards and mice. I'm talking about tapping into the brain, where senses are tricked into seeing, hearing and feeling stimuli that exists nowhere but in your head (and the computer). [the movie existenz comes to mind]
Get shot? Trick the brain into feeling the pain. Would the pain be real? Take it a step further, if it's a fatal shot trick the brain into stopping your heart beating.....
Every year video games get more realistic. One day they could very well be almost indistinguishable from reality. At what point along that continuum do we draw the line, if at all?
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I think when we starting tapping into the central nervous system with computers, video games are going to be the least of your worries.
Salted Pork
So its ok to fantasise about or imagine murdering somebody but not raping them?? I'm afraid you are fucked in the head if you do either!
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Yeah I'd feel like killing someone if they harmed my family, I'd feel like killing someone if they stole my bike, I'd feel like killing someone if they ripped me off big time. Only feel though, not actually carry it out. Maybe in the heat of the moment if I found a molester standing over my childs lifeless body I would kill, be damned the consequences. But I've never imagined raping a child or woman. You're 'fucked in the head' if you can not see the difference.
Who here has ever muttered the words or thought to themselves, 'I'd kill that cu#t'? I dear say a high percentage, maybe even you spudchucka?
Who here has ever muttered the words or thought to themselves, 'I'd rape that woman or child'? I hope no-one.
There is a difference spudchucka.
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OAB - you are justifying murder and torture in games, yet denouncing rape etc, based on your expectation of peoples thoughts, attitudes and behaviours, and your concepts of whats right and whats wrong.
That is what the censors were doing when they banned the game.......
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I wouldn't think it's only my thoughts, I think you'd find it's pretty common across the line of game players. I know plenty of gamers, have played postal and manhunt myself as well. Pretty boring games in all honesty, kill a few people and that's it. But out of all the people I know who have ever played a violent game (including my sweet wife) not one of them would find a game involving rape or child molestation of any appeal whatsoever. Period.
Getting back to the original arguement, it's bleedin obvious it's a game. When I drive my car on the streets, I don't drive it like GTA. When I come to a cliff edge, and there is something just out of reach, I don't jump off the edge to grab it and and fall 10x my height and lose a few health points. When I ride my bike I don't swing a chain and try to collect other motorcyclists like Road Rash. When I get into a fight I don't perform a kill manouvre and rip out their still beating heart from their chest. I'm yet to walk down a street to find a giant monkey throwing barrels at me.
You want to ban games that involve violence and murder? Do you? Well you better start book burning as well, take all types of music off of the shelves (everything from country through to rap), banning movies, tv, newspapers etc. Fuck, I've learnt more from watching reality tv programs on burglaries, police chases, getting away with murder (CSI etc) than any game has taught me. These programs show you how to do it by showing how to get caught. Video games are a break from reality, these shows deal directly with it.
Suzuki built a motorcycle capable of 280km/h. I'm going to sue them when I get caught speeding.
Dunhill make my cigarettes. I'm going to sue them if I get lung cancer.
Stanely make knives. I'm going to sue them if I cut myself.
This keyboard is hurting my wrist. I'm going to sue Microsift when I get RSI.
Because I can not look after myself. I need help from myself. I need protecting from myself. I need a nanny state where every possible harm is taken away from me.
No I don't.
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No I don't, and i never said i did. I'm fairly anti-censorship. But I am genuinely intrigued about peoples reaction to it. Either you have censorship based on a subjective opinion of what's good, or you don't. You can't argue that censorship is good but the levels too high or low because there are so many different opinions.
By your logic a game about fiddling with kiddies wouldn't encourage any one to actually go out and do that.....
Yes, you'd have to be a sick fuck to play it, but believe it or not a large percentage of the population say the same about Resevoir Dogs.....
Having said that your idea of banning reality tv does have it's merits......
Forum whore
I kinda figured you wouldn't be a Port Royal man OAB.
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