'Reservoir Dogs' game banned, I am pissed

[onearmedbandit]

Of course, violence has only been around for 60-70yrs. Nothing to do with the increase in media coverage, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, etc. Did you know that some people use guns for killing people. Should ban all those as well, don't want to see NZ ending up like South Africa.

[onearmedbandit]

And they practised playing quake and doom. NOthing even remotely close to reservoire dogs.

So if those games were not available that event never would've happened? Or would they just have been worse shots??

[The_Dover]

I dunno OAB, I'm a crackshot with a real firearm. Even had my first class marksman badge.

But I'm shit at computer games and constantly get wasted by fat nerds that cant get laid. Where's my real gun?

[Brett]

So if those games were not available that event never would've happened? Or would they just have been worse shots??

No, of course saying that would be silly. The fact stands, de-sensitisation is de-sensitisation. Take this for examply, tho obviously may be a tad OTT:

MIddle aged man with mental disorder, such as Paranoid Pschtzo with natural violent tendancies, or someone who sometimes sees the fantasy/reality line a bit blurred, enjoys a bit of escapism into a fantasy world where they can hurt, kill, maim people etc.

Finds one day that while smacking a woman around and mollesting her on the PC that he gets a hard on. Enter stage left, movies and porn that depicts sexual violence. One day this is no longer enough, and he has to push the boundaries a little bit further to stimulate his mind. Don't have to be very smart to see the natural progression!

Same thing as riding a bike OAB. When you got your first bike, it would most likely not have been the mighty Gixxer! But that little machine FELT like a demon on two wheels no doubt, i know my ZXR did anyway. As time goes on, the more you ride the more you get used to the speed...so you upgrade bikes.

Now, some of us learn to control our urges (most of the time) and don;t ride everywhere like morons, however some people (some of my own mates) struggle to control themselves and the speeds at which they ride.
I am sure you can see the parrallel.

I am no PC person, i am really quite anti PC BS. I am strongly capitalist, like my freedom, love guns, bikes, cars, speed etc. My favourite bands are Tool and APC. However games like this don't fall into the category of PC Bullshit. It is protecting the minds of those among us who are not able to protect themselves.
I am not asking you to agree with me, i am just saying that i am glad that it isn't going to be readily available.

[Smokin]

A lot of you are missing the point. Most of the people on here would be considered moral and socially conscieous people. Not everyone is the same. There are lots of people, especially those who may suffer a mental disease that struggle to distinguish the difference between fantasy and reality.

Why should one person have the right to punish your average mentally stable kiwi of a game that he/she wishes to play in the privacy of his their home.

Im a very broad minded bloke that plays alot of pc games and I dont have a problem with them but just lately we have been watching quite a few hired DVD titles and some of them had me cringing, How is your person that suffers with a mental disease going to distinguish between fantasy and reality with the dvd he/she hires out or the next program on television?

I would have thought that playing as a pixelated characture on a monitor was mild compaired to ultra life like special effects of movies like "SAW" for example.

And then we have violent mentally unstable certified people being sent back into the community by our government and yet they are telling us that we should give them another chance and welcome them as our neighbor.

[Brett]

I would have thought that playing as a pixelated characture on a monitor was mild compaired to ultra life like special effects of movies like "SAW" for example.

And then we have violent mentally unstable certified people being sent back into the community by our government and yet they are telling us that we should give them another chance and welcome them as our neighbor.

Yep that is a good point. We release people from the slammer that really should be locked up in the padded cell still.

We are going to suffer either way! If we ban the game, some people suffer not being able to play it, or being prosecuted if they do obtain it. On the other hand, we all suffer as our society and social conscience is quickly eroded and mutilated.

[Lias]

Yep that is a good point. We release people from the slammer that really should be locked up in the padded cell still.

We are going to suffer either way! If we ban the game, some people suffer not being able to play it, or being prosecuted if they do obtain it. On the other hand, we all suffer as our society and social conscience is quickly eroded and mutilated.

I say we let the sane play whatever sodding games they like, and put the seriously mentally ill down like rabid dogs.

[onearmedbandit]

Brett, I'm not denying what you're saying, but as Smokin states why should a small group of people (who no doubt will get their 'motivation' from other forms) deny me the ability to purchase a video game that is considered violent, sick by some.

Now I haven't said anywhere in this thread what my feelings are regarding this specific title. I haven't played it, I've only read the media beat-up so I can't comment on it. So I'll play it no doubt at some stage, but I won't actively seek the game out. I've played ManHunt and Postal 2, very boring games with no real appeal other that a bit of humour (it's a game people, get over it.). But I will play it just to see what the fuss is about.

[Ixion]

An equally good case culd be made that such games allow the mentally unstable to act out their fantasies in a safe and not-harmful-to-others environment. I'd rather have a nutter getting his jollies playing a computer game, rather than getting more and more wired until he goes out and plays it out for real, with real people. Escapism can be a valuable safety valve.

Moreover, if someone is that mentally unstable, they should (a) be under observation, whether in an institution or in the community ; and (b) if such games are deemed unwise for them that is a condition of their release into the community - just like "no alcohol, no drugs", "no alcohol, no drugs , no computer games".

[onearmedbandit]

Moreover, if someone is that mentally unstable, they should (a) be under observation, whether in an institution or in the community ; and (b) if such games are deemed unwise for them that is a condition of their release into the community - just like "no alcohol, no drugs", "no alcohol, no drugs , no computer games".

Ahhh, the voice of reason.

[Lias]

Ahhh, the voice of reason.

Quick! Block your ears!

[Indiana_Jones]

Those dudes on the battlefield of Waterloo must of played too many games.

-Indy

[Brett]

Brett, I'm not denying what you're saying, but as Smokin states why should a small group of people (who no doubt will get their 'motivation' from other forms) deny me the ability to purchase a video game that is considered violent, sick by some.

Now I haven't said anywhere in this thread what my feelings are regarding this specific title. I haven't played it, I've only read the media beat-up so I can't comment on it. So I'll play it no doubt at some stage, but I won't actively seek the game out. I've played ManHunt and Postal 2, very boring games with no real appeal other that a bit of humour (it's a game people, get over it.). But I will play it just to see what the fuss is about.

Fair enough, and i appreciate your point of view.

[Brett]

Moreover, if someone is that mentally unstable, they should (a) be under observation, whether in an institution or in the community ; and (b) if such games are deemed unwise for them that is a condition of their release into the community - just like "no alcohol, no drugs", "no alcohol, no drugs , no computer games".

With that I agree 100%. But unfortuanately, we both know that that sort of control is not an option here. But I agree, that would be considered a suitable option. But what about people, such as kids, that really shouldn't be exposed to that sort of violence? Once they are not so influencial it is a different story. But how would you protect young eyes and ears?

[Skyryder]

And they practised playing quake and doom. NOthing even remotely close to reservoire dogs.

Practise..........DID I HEAR YOU SAY PRACTICE?? In DOOM the bad guys fired back. THE COLUMBINE STUDENTS WERE UNARMED. BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE. DON'T NEED ANY "PRACTICE" AGAINST UNARMED STUDENTS


Skyryder