Motu hits a big one....

**Ixion** · 10th July 2006, 22:50

Originally Posted by XTC

Now that's just nasty.....

You're right. I'm ashamed of m'self.

Now, where's me shovel. I can never remember the ruddy ratio. Is it 1:2:3 ?

**N4CR** · 10th July 2006, 23:21

My mate had a similar incident but with a bin on a dark night and only car lights on.. oncoming car clipped a bin at 60k into his lane as they didn't see it.. he only saw a faint outline then clunk and a bin flying towards him.. fully caved the bumper in.

Woulda been a dead bikey in that situation.

Was a full size wheelie bin. Strong things, seen cars use them as bumpers for powerpoles before..

**marty** · 11th July 2006, 01:22

harris st huntly. 1991. fridge box on the road. clipped by 2 cars, 3rd one lined it up to hit it square on, 2 kids push it over and run out from inside it. motu said it - could have been awful.

**paturoa** · 11th July 2006, 03:12

I've hit a few things over the years, but mostly when there is no time to even think about it. - scary stuff huntly story!

**Motu** · 11th July 2006, 08:21

Not much chance of a kid being in it considering where it was - but that's the sort of asumption that ends up in things going wrong in a big way.Maybe I recalled Marty's case subconciously.

What concerns me is why I didn't see it until it was too late - my lights are excellent even on dip,230 watts should be enough.I'd like to think I'm not outdriving my lights,so one night when no one is around I might do a panic stop from 100kph at max range on dip.It always worries me when you dip your lights for an oncoming car at night,and all of a sudden you are driving/riding blind at speed.Maybe our two opposing beams somehow cannelled it out,hidding it from view.I think I also look somewhere else with an approaching vehicle at night,as you are supposed to - so I either look to the side of the road,or even further ahead past my headlight beams.As always,a series of events leading up to a potential problem....there is usualy never only one factor involved.

If I was in the van I've been using the last couple of weeks or in a car,the box might of gone underneath and made me lose control - makes me feel better about using the Pajero,ready for any situation....except going fast.

**sAsLEX** · 11th July 2006, 08:21

Originally Posted by marty

harris st huntly. 1991. fridge box on the road. clipped by 2 cars, 3rd one lined it up to hit it square on, 2 kids push it over and run out from inside it. motu said it - could have been awful.

Darwin had some good points, kids who play on the road obviously aint from the high end of the gene pool!

**sunhuntin** · 11th July 2006, 11:38

was readin the dom post yesterday...newborn baby was run over by numerous cars before being discovered...wrapped in a red plastic bag. was in one of the asian countries i think....they dont know if the baby was dead or alive prior to being on the road.

**chickenfunkstar** · 11th July 2006, 12:17

Its situations like this that make me hesitant to ride twisty roads at night, particularly if its raining or there's lots of spray around because it has been raining recently. When a car is coming towards you and the light from its headlights is refracting in every direction through the water on your helmet, it makes things really difficult. Some of corners i've had to ride from memory because it was near impossible to even see which way the road goes. If there was gravel, diesel or any other debries on the road, i'd have had no chance to see them.

**Squeak the Rat** · 11th July 2006, 12:32

The box didn't exist until you saw it. You should have kept your eyes shut.....

Being a biker it's quite likely that you were being reasonably alert, so a trick of the light is likely - perhaps it looked like a road marking, or your brain just didn't expect to see a box.....

Controversial thought, maybe we need to be more understanding when cages say they didn't see the bike.......

**SPman** · 11th July 2006, 13:28

We get this potential situation every morning and evening, in particular, with Roos. It certainly makes you think about the potential for disaster and not outdriving your lights! With an oncoming vehicle and having to dip....and that bloody dark spot ahead of you.........amazing how you drop your speeds......

**Str8 Jacket** · 11th July 2006, 13:40

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

Darwin had some good points, kids who play on the road obviously aint from the high end of the gene pool!

Hehe reminds me of my brother (who is EXTREMELY smart btw) who used to play on the main road in Ohakune with his toy trucks when he was a toddler, he would sneak out of a window in the house and do it cause mum would give him a hiding for doing it. The olds ended up building a fence he couldnt jump over or climb under to stop him....

Off topic sorry!

**Motu** · 11th July 2006, 13:45

I've always been puzzled with how come on a narrow road when a car is coming the other way,and a tractor is parked on the side of the road,or some other obstical - you always meet exactly at the danger spot? If someone was faster or slower it wouldn't be a problem....we seem to syncronise the meeting point.I met the other car at exactly the point I plowed into the cardboard box...I didn't see the box until too late,so maybe he matched his speed so we could cross at the right time?

**Ixion** · 11th July 2006, 13:48

I also have often wondered this. You can drive for miles along a straightish road, without encountering a single oncoming vehicle. But, get to the one fastish blind corner, and half way round , you can guarantee to encounter a whole convoy.

There must be some law of the universe that ordains that traffic will meet at the most hazardous and inconvenient points.

**scumdog** · 11th July 2006, 13:56

Originally Posted by Motu

I've always been puzzled with how come on a narrow road when a car is coming the other way,and a tractor is parked on the side of the road,or some other obstical - you always meet exactly at the danger spot? If someone was faster or slower it wouldn't be a problem....we seem to syncronise the meeting point.I met the other car at exactly the point I plowed into the cardboard box...I didn't see the box until too late,so maybe he matched his speed so we could cross at the right time?

Was a fatal down this way a few years ago.
Early morning out in the country, still dark, older chap riding sensibly on straight road, oncoming vehicle approaches, rider moves a little to the left as oncoming vehicle get nearer, BANG! rider hits deck of farm ute parked at right-angles to road as cocky got out to open gate into paddock, deck of ute was still out on the road by a bit.