Second Hand Bikes

[toymachine]

Thanks guys, once the "Ozzie is a twat" thing, and the anonomous red squares ceased, some good info came.

I appreciate it, and I'm sure any other solo newbees that read it will as well.

And yes, I really am a twat, but if it helps someone like the newbee this is aimed at, I can handle it!

Mmm, a good thread to raise some opinions if you ask me.

Second hand is my only option, and TBH having no experience on a bike it's the sensible option... hey, I _will_ drop it at some stage, bang it up a bit... hopefully not too much or too often but i expect it to happen.

Going to keep looking around... beyond trademe though i'm not sure where to look?

[SARGE]

I personnaly will not seriously consider a second hand bike.

Why?

Well basically because I don't know what they have been through, I don't know enough about bikes to be able to tell. Because I can't be sure it is safe and hasn't been thrashed, and you just can't trust people to be honest;

What are your thoughts? What are your biggest concerns with second hand rides? What do you look for?

which is WHY its a good idea to go throught a reputable dealership..

TardMe is a virus that eats $$$

[Swoop]

I bought my bike through betrademe.

2nd hand... no.
I am at least the 10th owner. Do I give a rats ass - no.

All second hand bikes have their issues. Normally very small.
It deends on what you are after. There is smeg-all that goes wrong with a modern bike - but check its history. Like a car, if the oil and filter has been changed regularly, there is very little that can go wrong.
A great dealer like SARGE will stand behind his bike/product/sale, 100% whether new or second hand. Why? Because of the reliability of todays engineering.

If a bike has been dropped? Then it needs to have been rebuilt by someone who knows what they are doing. Simple.

Bikes are like cars. Once driven off the showroom floor depreciation kicks in and the affordability varies.
Do your homework.
If you can afford a brand new bike - get one and look after it.
If not, get a 2nd hand one and enjoy it for what it is.
Then think about a new bike that you will look after and know its history.

Rule #1?
Be honest with your dealings when you sell the bike.

[SARGE]

A great dealer like SARGE will stand behind his bike/product/sale, 100% whether new or second hand. Why? Because of the reliability of todays engineering.

thanks man... even if it wasnt the law.. i'd still stand behind my deals.. ( unless i specifically state " As is Where Is"

no point in fuck-in anyone around .. if i sell you a good bike .. you'll tell 2 friends .. if i fuck you over .. you will tell 200.

it dont lend itself to long term career prospects

Garage sale Trademe dealers dont have that hanging over thier heads

[Ozzie]

Going to keep looking around... beyond trademe though i'm not sure where to look?

By the sounds of it dude, it might be an idea to drop in and see sarge, Colemans Suzuki isn't it????? Mt Eden????

[marty]

with all this wealth can you buy me a new bike you know as long as it's over 17499 i'm happy cough 06 yamaha r6 plzzz oh yer don't forget about the onroad so when are you giving me it?

lets see, 12 hours, $17499, that works out to about $1458/hr, or at the most, $14/km.....

[Motu]

thanks man...

How do you walk with all these heads stuck up your arse? Do you take them out at night?

[inlinefour]

Thanks guys, once the "Ozzie is a twat" thing, and the anonomous red squares ceased, some good info came.

I appreciate it, and I'm sure any other solo newbees that read it will as well.

And yes, I really am a twat, but if it helps someone like the newbee this is aimed at, I can handle it!

Pays not to take anything too seriously that is posted. People who do tend not to last very long. Many of us when we started here where thought to be considered twats. Apparently there are still people that think that, but like I said. pay not to take anything too seriously here and I dont actually care...

Ask away with your questions, by all means. Just don't be surprised if you cop a bit of flack at times, we all do eh.

[SARGE]

By the sounds of it dude, it might be an idea to drop in and see sarge, Colemans Suzuki isn't it????? Mt Eden????

K'Rd under R&R Sport..

How do you walk with all these heads stuck up your arse? Do you take them out at night?

no way dude..

i like it when they wiggle.. helps me dance better..

[onearmedbandit]

Sarge, in NZ a licenced dealer can not contract out of the consumers guarantee act, even by putting 'as is where is' or 'sold for wrecking purposes only' on the VOSA. If shit hit the fan they can still take you to task, the only thing in your favour is the courts will take into account price paid, condition at time of sale (has to be agreed upon by both parties) versus normal retail. If it is blindingly obvious signifficantly less was paid then normal retail the consumers case will be weakened, but not thrown out. You are still bound by the sales of goods act, c.g.a, and fair trading act.

[sunhuntin]

when i upgrade, it will likely be to second hand. and will also likely be off someone i know, where i can know the history of the bike and how it was ridden. i was on a 4th hand suzuki that was ridden by my brother, then by my dad and then me. subsequently, i got hit by a car, but the bike is still being used on a farm somewhere. i was quite happy on that bike too.

i like the older bikes....these new ones all just look like clones to me, the old ones sorta all looked different. and they stand out even more today because of that.

[Bonez]

Secondhand bikes are fine. All the ones I've purchased have done over 50,000kms and more than 2 owners. The odd quirk here and there but nothing over the top.

[acewheelie]

I've never had the luxury of a new bike, by and large the bikes I've had have been roadworthy, some a bit tatty, but with TLC they tend to last ok. Even managed to get 80,000 km from a VF750F without the top of the motor letting go!

[yungatart]

We pay cash for most things, including all our bikes - I would rather pay cash for a second hand bike than interest on a new one!

[Silage]

Hey Ozzie, just so you don't feel like the only one to "prefer" buying new. The road bikes I buy, I expect to hang onto for a while and so the 1988 GB400 ($3200 new) and 2004 GS1200 ($9000 600km on clock) I bought new and still have. The extra dosh at purchase is evened out by length of ownership. For me it is the same issue as you raised - don't know what a second-hand has been and done. But I do realise that there are a lot of good 2ndhands around. I just don't wannabe 1000km from home with a no go. Sure it can happen with a new bike but its less likely.

In addition I have two trailies - XR200 and XL125 both bought 2ndhand and the 200 is a bit of a dunger but is a grunter when it goes - who cares if they break somewhere as I am unlikely to be more than 3hrs pushing to vehicle or home. And just to be totally inconsistent, I would never buy a new car cos there are heaps of great 2nd hand buys around. I am just fussier with my bikes - and its my skin.

No reason for red reps to you Ozzie, good discussion. When you get to 200 posts and 3months (or sommit like that) you can see who sent them.