Wake Up Call

**beyond** · 15th July 2006, 21:24

Hiya Swanny,

Good to hear you got out of that one mate

Sounds like a very close call indeed.

Not being picky here or anything but if it happens again, don't close your eyes and expect the worst okay? You are way better to steer the bike off road than have a head on. Chances of survival are far greater if you hit something around 50kmh than having a head on with looneys doing 50kmh plus. If they are doing the speed limit (which it sounds like they weren't) it's still a 100kmh speed crash in the end. Head ons are to be avoided at all costs.

I came around a corner on a recent Coro loop a a couple months back between Whitianga and Tairua in the twisties. Was going pretty quick and as I come around the bend onto the short straight, a white commodore V8 full of nutters is overtaking three cars on my side of the road doing easily around 130kmh towards the blind corner I just came around. It's not known for wide
roads around there but if we had ended up in a head on, combines speed would have been around250kmh. Reckon the 1400 would have made a fair dent.

Without really thinking I just whacked the left bar forward which shot me left near the gravel, set up a bit of a head shake, whacked the right bar before hitting the gravel and managed to swerve around the holden. IMHO it was a life saving move. The same idiots nearly took a few of the other guys out on their bikes further back.

Some right Neanderthals out there alright. Blame it all on "P" I reckon.

**Maha** · 15th July 2006, 21:40

Originally Posted by imdying

Who is the bigger fuckwit, someone who (arguably) starts a pointless thread, or the person who quotes the entire message to add a fucking pointless single line comment to bitch about it?

/edit: Oh yeah, in case you're as stupid as you make out, it's you

Fuck thats a great post dude.............

**SwanTiger** · 15th July 2006, 21:44

Originally Posted by beyond

Not being picky here or anything but if it happens again, don't close your eyes and expect the worst okay? You are way better to steer the bike off road than have a head on. Chances of survival are far greater if you hit something around 50kmh than having a head on with looneys doing 50kmh plus. If they are doing the speed limit (which it sounds like they weren't) it's still a 100kmh speed crash in the end. Head ons are to be avoided at all costs.

I agree with your thinking and have used it to get myself out of several situations such as the one you described in the Coromandel.

However in this instance I was stumped and have resigned to the fact there was no realistic counter re-action given the short space of time and my position on the road, and the turning radius of a sports bike at slow speeds.

I think the only way is to avoid it in the first place by pulling more than usually necessary to the left or waiting for both lanes to clear.

Food for thought anyway. My goal is to live and ride long enough to pillion my little girl or watch as she passes me on one wheel

She can't crawl or walk yet, but she can balance herself on a bike seat

looking promising so far.

Anyone else got suggestions on what you would've done?

**RantyDave** · 15th July 2006, 21:50

Originally Posted by swanny

However in this instance I was stumped and have resigned to the fact there was no realistic counter re-action given the short space of time and my position on the road...

Anyone else got suggestions on what you would've done?

Press the triangle button in the middle, quit the race and try again.

Oh, hang on.

Dave

**beyond** · 15th July 2006, 21:56

Originally Posted by RantyDave

Press the triangle button in the middle, quit the race and try again.

Oh, hang on.

Dave

Now wouldn't that be real nice if every bike came with that triangle button in the middle so we could just redo that part again. Be real handy for tickets too eh?

**beyond** · 15th July 2006, 22:01

Originally Posted by swanny

Anyone else got suggestions on what you would've done?

Last resort and if all options are kaput, push up hard with your legs, let them have your bike cos it's going to stop them one way or the other, tuck as you hit the bonnet and/or windscreen, if you don't visit them in the front seat, roll over the roof and land on your feet behind the car, run around to the drivers side as he aint going anywhere with your bike wedged in his radiator, pull the bugger from the car and head butt him with your helmet. That should do for starters eh?

Being facetious of course, BUT, in a no way out head on, if you have time, jump high and hard. It's still going to hurt but survival chances are higher.
Oh, that's for a car and not a high van or truck that you will have no way clearing anyway.

**Clivoris** · 15th July 2006, 22:11

Grand escape man.

May you have many more.

**Skyryder** · 16th July 2006, 10:05

Originally Posted by RantyDave

Ummm, sorry, I really don't see the problem with it. It's not like KB is famed for intelligent debate on topics of relevance to the greater world stage, is it? Besides, it makes a nice change to hear of someone *not* getting squashed. Shit, today it's made a nice change to see someone who can spell and use grammar.

Don't get it. Maybe it should have been in "rant and rave" but what exactly is the problem?

Dave

My comments were taken from the Red rep dialog box that Swanny sent me about a thread that I started a few days ago. He was unwilling to debate his comments out in the open forum. That's the difference between Swanny and myself. I don't have to hide behind the red rep dialog box. What you see is what you get.

But having said that out on the road Swanny's my best friend as indeed are all kiwibikers. Maybe some of you who slagged me need to be more aware than you appear to be.

Skyryder

Skyryder

**Indiana_Jones** · 16th July 2006, 10:57

Shit, close call man. I think we should shit on those guys. Don't waste our time getting the cops involved

-Indy

**HONKEEE** · 16th July 2006, 11:13

should of done a wheelie into the car. would of killed them as well

**Edbear** · 16th July 2006, 12:23

Originally Posted by beyond

Now wouldn't that be real nice if every bike came with that triangle button in the middle so we could just redo that part again. Be real handy for tickets too eh?

Not to mention a lot of other situations...

**Edbear** · 16th July 2006, 12:25

Ps. Glad you're okay, mate. Not a nice place to be!

**imdying** · 16th July 2006, 16:17

Originally Posted by Skyryder

My comments were taken from the Red rep dialog box that Swanny sent me about a thread that I started a few days ago. He was unwilling to debate his comments out in the open forum. That's the difference between Swanny and myself. I don't have to hide behind the red rep dialog box. What you see is what you get.

And yet you couldn't leave it alone, stop being a pissy bitch.