The Christian Smacking Manual!!

**scumdog** · 20th July 2006, 22:22

Originally Posted by ogr1

Errrrrrrrrrrrrm..................You?

Good, glad somebody told me, hadn't realised it myself.

Normally I'm fully aware (as is most of my surrounding area) when I AM tetchy.

**SuperDave** · 20th July 2006, 22:24

"If the child is angry after the smack, you have not smacked hard enough"

Damn fucken right, and if the child persists and begins to cry then, yet again you are not smacking hard enough, you need to persist and keep smacking harder and harder until there is utter silence.

**Ozzie** · 21st July 2006, 08:22

Originally Posted by SuperDave

"If the child is angry after the smack, you have not smacked hard enough"

Damn fucken right, and if the child persists and begins to cry then, yet again you are not smacking hard enough, you need to persist and keep smacking harder and harder until there is utter silence.

Well said Dave, but I have to conceede, I strenuously disagree.

**scumdog** · 21st July 2006, 08:26

Originally Posted by SuperDave

"If the child is angry after the smack, you have not smacked hard enough"

Damn fucken right, and if the child persists and begins to cry then, yet again you are not smacking hard enough, you need to persist and keep smacking harder and harder until there is utter silence.

Kahui twins huh?

**The Stranger:Me** · 21st July 2006, 09:05

Originally Posted by ogr1

That about sums it up! Go take it out on someone who fights back, if your man enough?

Hmm you appear to confuse smacking with violence.
Smacking is not about violence it is about love.

Violence is child abuse, totally different kettle of fish.

**ogr1** · 21st July 2006, 09:11

Say what?...........

**The Stranger:Me** · 21st July 2006, 09:12

Originally Posted by XP@

Our house is currently having the to smack or not to smack debate (Kids 2f,9m,12f & 12m)

My instant answer has always been no smacking.

So did the debate end in you getting your way?

What did the kids have to say?

Ours opted for the smack, short sharp over and done, back on with life and sent a clear message.

They were confused by the rejection and hated the punishment dragging on, missed the computer and TV.

**The Stranger:Me** · 21st July 2006, 09:15

Originally Posted by ogr1

Say what?...........

Yip, my initial diagnoses was correct, you appear confused all right.

**Ozzie** · 21st July 2006, 10:02

Originally Posted by ogr1

Hang on a feckin mo.....................
I'm not aware of your personal circumstances

You involved my personal circumstances when you generalised that the problem is caused by "Part time parents". (my profile and my first post make my circumstances clear)

Broken families can have a devastating effect on kids, and adults, but it is not the reason for child abuse.

IMHO, the reason for some of the bashings we see, could be a result of people building up frustration with the lack of adequate parenting techniques; the feeling they are powerless to effectively discipline their children, then one day, pow, they explode. Of course, there is also the people that just have no idea, and beat the shit out of everyone, kids, spouses, people at the pub, people that cut them off while driving, I doubt there is any helping those, except prison and castration.

The thing is, a lot of people smack, yet there are not many (comparatively) that abuse (physically at least), granted, the not many there are, are too many.

**Ozzie** · 21st July 2006, 10:06

Add to that.....We are off topic.....

I think we both agree, the orginal start of this thread is terribly wrong. It is promoting abuse, and using the term "smacking" to make it ok. It is simply wrong, 15 minutes smacking is abuse, no confussion! Irrespective of who or what group says it is ok.

Have a nice day.

**emaN** · 21st July 2006, 11:05

People! people!
When "one" comes across a post which "one" may find increasing "one's" blood pressure, may i suggest waiting to post "one's" reply? Perhaps even 'til the next day? Have a think, re-read the 'inflammatory' post, try & figure out what the person is 'trying' to say (sometimes they don't mean anything by it, it's just worded wrong)... take time!

Re the alleged "15 minute spanking session"; as i said on the 1st or 2nd page - nowhere could i find the organization involved condoning a smacking session lasting 15 minutes.

What they DO advocate is trying to communicate with the toddler/child/teenager and let them know how they're going to be disciplined and why. This is what the 15 minutes would all be about.

**XP@** · 21st July 2006, 12:59

Originally Posted by CaN

So did the debate end in you getting your way?

What did the kids have to say?

Ours opted for the smack, short sharp over and done, back on with life and sent a clear message.

They were confused by the rejection and hated the punishment dragging on, missed the computer and TV.

We are going the other way. I doled out 1 1/2 hours of early bed times to the older boys this morning. The little one has the naughty chair with stricter enforcement.

**The Stranger:Me** · 21st July 2006, 13:09

Originally Posted by XP@

We are going the other way. I doled out 1 1/2 hours of early bed times to the older boys this morning. The little one has the naughty chair with stricter enforcement.

You miserable prick, a quick smack and it all would be over in 5 minutes.

Or 15 if you're a christian.