Another police memo

[spudchucka]

See my later post. Tis still revenue gathering. To satisfy "the targets set by those who give him their money" .

From the area commanders point of view it is all about the hours delivered. He wouldn't care at all what the dollar value of each ticket was, only that each ticket represents one hour of contracted traffic enforcement, which he is accountable for.

[Pancakes]

Hey Gramee, I've gota plan. I'll swap you my 250 V twin for your Thou V twin. It's win win really. You don't want to speed and I like to perform overtaking manuevers safely by taking as little time to do them as possible. PM me and I'll pick the SV up on Saturday.

[Ixion]

From the area commanders point of view it is all about the hours delivered. He wouldn't care at all what the dollar value of each ticket was, only that each ticket represents one hour of contracted traffic enforcement, which he is accountable for.

Granted. which is why i commented that Mr Scumdogs compliance tickets would be equally valuable for the purpose. In this respect, a ticket is a ticket.

[Pancakes]

Wouldn't a timesheet prove hours and a ticket prove someone got ticketed? Stop me if I'm wrong here, if you only get two tickets do you only get paid for two hours? Double the tickets and double the pay. Sputato-flinger, You made sense in every other thread I've read of yours but that one reeks of "company line". Did I say company?

[spudchucka]

There are many ways that an Area Commander can prove traffic hours without using ticket numbers. Items like vehicle log books, officers time sheets, rosters etc. But these methods don't collect revenue.

If all drivers are obeying the law, an officer could be rostered on traffic duty 8 hours a day, 365 days a year, and yet by the ticket count he couldn't prove a single hour of traffic duty. Unless.......

Paragraph 1:

No! The traffic hours delivered are measured from the police officers time sheets only. The cop can still put down hours delivered on his / her time sheets but if they don't have tickets lying alongside the hours then they will get a please explain from the boss.

Paragraph 2:
Yes! As road users please addopt this approach immediately.

[Ixion]

The LTSA , alas, are awake to the fact that timesheets are invariably , in every industry, classified as works of fiction. Tickets however, are an unarguable number.

[spudchucka]

Granted. which is why i commented that Mr Scumdogs compliance tickets would be equally valuable for the purpose. In this respect, a ticket is a ticket.

Correct, but you can't give compliance for speeding or running a red light. What are you meant to do, give them a notice ordering them to stop twice at the next one?

[spudchucka]

The LTSA , alas, are awake to the fact that timesheets are invariably , in every industry, classified as works of fiction. Tickets however, are an unarguable number.

Police bosses make issuing one ticket per hour of traffic enforcement a staff performance measure and contracted hours are linked to operational funding, thats the "Quota".

Cops put an hour of traffic on their time sheets when they have a ticket to show for their hour. This in itself is inherently dishonest becasue the reality is that cops are doing traffic enforcement every time they are on the road in a marked police car. Even just the presence of the police car alters driver behaviour, isn't this simple act enforcing road rules? Shouldn't it be accounted for on police time sheets?

Of course it should but it isn't because it doesn't generate a ticket, something measurable that can be used to show the people holding the purse strings that we are good bastards and are doing what we were contracted to do.

The reality is that cops do traffic enforcemnet whenever they are mobile but we can't show that on our time sheets. The whole thing just comes down to bean counters controlling the way we police.

[Jantar]

.... The whole thing just comes down to bean counters controlling the way we police.

Exactly. In other words. REVENUE COLLECTING.

[scumdog]

Everybody has side-stepped the point that if we make sure our vehicles have no defects and drive properly then we have nothing much to worry about eh?.

And a point here: I probably have one of the higher 'compliance' ticket counts here - but nobody has ever bailed me up about the lack of revenue I'm dragging in, they don't care as long as my contact rate is where they think it should be for the hours worked.

How come nobody gets onto ACC to stop funding Police ergo stop Police chasing their 'quota'?????

[Grahameeboy]

IT IS FUNNY AND BEST OF ALL IT BURNS A FUCKEN BIG HOLE IN YOU CAUSE ITS TRUE , I CAN HAVE A GAY LOOKING DOG BUT ITS YOU THAT LIKES THE COCK AND THATS WHAT MAKES YOU A HOMO

Fair call...........................

[Grahameeboy]

Hey Gramee, I've gota plan. I'll swap you my 250 V twin for your Thou V twin. It's win win really. You don't want to speed and I like to perform overtaking manuevers safely by taking as little time to do them as possible. PM me and I'll pick the SV up on Saturday.

Okay then...................................

[Grahameeboy]

Does he smoke cigarettes???

No, guys apparantly..............

[Grahameeboy]

Police bosses make issuing one ticket per hour of traffic enforcement a staff performance measure and contracted hours are linked to operational funding, thats the "Quota".

Cops put an hour of traffic on their time sheets when they have a ticket to show for their hour. This in itself is inherently dishonest becasue the reality is that cops are doing traffic enforcement every time they are on the road in a marked police car. Even just the presence of the police car alters driver behaviour, isn't this simple act enforcing road rules? Shouldn't it be accounted for on police time sheets?

Of course it should but it isn't because it doesn't generate a ticket, something measurable that can be used to show the people holding the purse strings that we are good bastards and are doing what we were contracted to do.

The reality is that cops do traffic enforcemnet whenever they are mobile but we can't show that on our time sheets. The whole thing just comes down to bean counters controlling the way we police.

I reckon that covers the issue..........

[Grahameeboy]

Exactly. In other words. REVENUE COLLECTING.

I guess it is no different to Income Tax..we work, we pay taxes, we speed we stand a chance of getting a ticket.....we want nice clothes we have to pay for them...............life's dusty path.......the Police are not the only revenue collectors.....don't see any threads about people who work for Inland Revenue, where does it end, lets complain about petrol station attendents and tell them to hassle BP to reduce price of petrol...........all they are doing is earning a crust just like the Police are and the only difference is that they are more exposed to abuse because it is easier.............I wish some of you guys looked around you and made this much fuss about more important issues.............yep I lost my licence cause I ride a motorbike and was having fun..in my case it is my release ............I know I am not a hoon but as Pancake said, I ride a 1000cc motorbike so it is easy to get complacent and none of us here can say we do not have fun on our bikes.....3 tickets in 27 years ain't bad and just one accident...

Anyway, the Police do a bloody good job in difficult circumstances.......and the Bikercops on this site deserve better.