More bullshit

**Pixie** · 27th July 2006, 10:39

In my utopia no one would pay their fines for this shit.
What would they do?
Try to hold a million court hearings each year?
Lock all the non payers up?
That's why they target Joe and Jane Fine payer,it's too expensive to target the ones that just ignor the fines.
Suckers

**Lou Girardin** · 27th July 2006, 12:08

Originally Posted by Divot

Even in a court of law both sides of the story are heard before any judgement is made!

Of course. The JP's give both sides a fair hearing. Then agree with the cop.

**MSTRS:Me** · 27th July 2006, 12:14

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Of course. The JP's give both sides a fair hearing. Then agree with the cop.

Hence the paying of the fine (albeit prematurely)
"We'll give him a fair trial, and then we'll hang him!!"

**jimbo600** · 27th July 2006, 13:24

Originally Posted by scumdog

As far as I know there are no GI's saying you 'must'.

And it makes more sense to cut some slack for those slowing down rather than those that have been winding up speed for the last 400 metres in anticipation of the 70kph area, after all it's not a requirement that you HAVE to be doing 70kph as you cross the line.

But give the mid-day start a go and let me know how it works out eh?

Turns out the 0800 start is a condition of employment, not a guideline. Not answering back when you are getting a reaming from the boss is a guideline however.

**scumdog** · 27th July 2006, 13:39

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Isn't accelerating before a speed limit change a more deliberate act than slowing a bit less than needed when entering a lower limit?
And don't you need to justify a departure from general instructions?

"Oh shit were coming up to a 50 area I better start slowing down" is a common event, hence I'm not so likely to ping them as long as they're slowing down.

But "Hmm, I think there should be a 70 (or100) around the next corner so I better get my speed up to that" is less likely a scenario, they just tend to be generally driving too fast

And if you happen to be doing 80kph in the 50kph area about 200metres from the 70 sign is it O.K.?
After all its 'only' 10kph more than the speed limit of the area that they're almost just about nearly into into.

Most common thing is:
"I thought I was in a 70"

"Why did you think that, did you see any other signs after you went past the last 50k sign?"

"No, I dunno, I just thought it"

And the Court can decide if what I was doing was a breach of GIs should that day ever come.... won't worry me one way or t'other.

**Swoop** · 27th July 2006, 16:15

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Of course. The JP's give both sides a fair hearing. Then agree with the cop.

Yep, dunno why we have them since they are only for ceremonial purposes...

**spudchucka** · 27th July 2006, 20:57

Originally Posted by yungatart

Not practiced very often tho?

You're in a position to judge on a national basis?

**spudchucka** · 27th July 2006, 20:58

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Isn't accelerating before a speed limit change a more deliberate act than slowing a bit less than needed when entering a lower limit?
And don't you need to justify a departure from general instructions?

The 250 metre thing is in the policy on speed enforcement, not the general instructions.

**spudchucka** · 27th July 2006, 21:02

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Of course. The JP's give both sides a fair hearing. Then agree with the cop.

Remember the link I posted for you recently? The JP's heard the defended speeding ticket that had been issued by an Inspector of police, not a constable and decided that they would, "give the driver the benefit of the doubt".

**Lou Girardin** · 28th July 2006, 08:28

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Remember the link I posted for you recently? The JP's heard the defended speeding ticket that had been issued by an Inspector of police, not a constable and decided that they would, "give the driver the benefit of the doubt".

Yeah OK spud, the exception that proves the rule. I had to stop myself from laughing in court sometimes. You watch the old farts pretending to delibarate on a matter and you know all the time they're checking how long it is till morning tea.

**Fatjim** · 28th July 2006, 09:34

How slow are you legally allowed to drive in an open speed limit. I was under the impression that if you where doing less than 60k that was potentially ticketable?

If so, would a posted 50k sign at the end of an open limit be impossible to comply with?

**Lou Girardin** · 28th July 2006, 09:47

Originally Posted by Fatjim

How slow are you legally allowed to drive in an open speed limit. I was under the impression that if you where doing less than 60k that was potentially ticketable?

If so, would a posted 50k sign at the end of an open limit be impossible to comply with?

There's a 40 km/h minmum on motorways. Travelling excessively slowly on other roads would come under inconsiderate use.