The Mongrel Mob

[placidfemme]

Who else watched that doco on the Mongrel Mob last night?

I was trying to pay as much attention as I could (which isn't a lot at the best of times), as I was also cooking dinner at the time...

From what I did see, some guy (dunno who he is) has taken in and helped a certain chapter of the Mongrel Mob, resulting in the Mongrel Mob after 9 years of help from this guy... deciding to change their image...

The best thing I heard in the whole program was "Make your kid's number 1 or hand over your patch".

I think thats awesome and its a great step forward towards changing hundreds of lives and futures.

However (yes you knew this coming).

Do they speak for ALL the chapters of the Mongrel Mob?

Because they said that when they gave their members the option of putting their kids first or loosing their patch, they lost a few members...

So in short, is this a nationwide change, or just one chapter?

And what do you think about it?

[u4ea]

,.....................you can live in hope plac...................they aint gunna change.used to watch them wander round the place on dole day .bare feet.patched.kids all in red hoodies............theyre a joke.

[Beemer]

Saw it and was impressed in a way. Maybe they are getting old and realise they can't live their lives like this forever. Maybe they really do want better lives for their children. Whatever the reasons behind it, I hope it works and they do turn their lives around. That guy and his wife deserve medals for what they do, wish there were more of them around.

It will be interesting to see next week's show about the Parnell Panther. Wonder if he really has changed?

Must confess, I'd rather live in the same street as the Mongrel Mob than those White Power guys, they scare the shit out of me! The Mob wouldn't care if I had an Asian or an Indian or a Maori friend, but the skinheads would want me dead!

[Nitzer]

So in short, is this a nationwide change, or just one chapter?

As far as I understood it it is just one chapter, the 'Notorious'. Pretty interesting though

[placidfemme]

So if it is just one chapter... don't they run the risk of the other chapters wanting revenge for pussyfying (I know thats not a real word) their gang?

[Lou Girardin]

Maybe I'm a tad cynical, but what's with the comment from him that some of the bro's have done a few crimes since going 'straight'.
What's this all about?
Is crime an addiction now? So you can backslide and it doesn't matter.
This is just a fairly clever PR line to try and get the heat off their P labs.

[Colapop]

The only way that any of those guys change is by giving up their patch all together. Yes people can change (and a lot of gang members do as they get older) but the reality is that the guys who are patched members will continue to commit crimes and live outside the law. They are animals. They are dogs - by their own reckoning.
As Lou said - it's a PR exercise.

[Macktheknife]

I was really confronted by the program actually, on the one hand I think good on them for trying to change and on the other I was like well hang on a second, the entry requirement of the notorious bunch used to be reserved for only the 'baddest of the bad'. Now the leader of this bunch, presumably the meanest and baddest, sits there and says "oh but everyone deserves a chance". How many chances has he already had exactly?
Respect to the guy who is opening his home to them and such but at the same time, "all you need is love" just doesn't seem to cut a lot for me.
One chapter is a nice start I suppose, but is this representative of the gang? not even a little bit.
I feel conflicted between my instincts and my cynical observations of life.
Did anyone else notice the high number of the gang members who had their faces covered? I assume this was to avoid ID for crimes they hadn't been arrested for yet.

Edit: nah feck it, cynicism wins. They are all dyed-in-the-wool bastards who are spinning a line.

[Ixion]

Didn't see it, wuldn't believe it if I did. Leopard don't change his spots.

So, now they've 'changed" what precisely are they doing to make a worthwhile positive contribution to society?

Uh-huh, thought so. Step over here, please, Jake, there's a nice brick wall here.

Next thing y'know, they'll be saying they've found Jesus and seen the light!

[acewheelie]

Shoot them all I say....

Every now and again one or other of the gangs does the 'coming clean and legal thing', why is this any different?

Where did that box of grenades go.......

[Finn]

I like it. Mongrel Mob for hire!

I could use them during the Tender process for private and government opportunites. It would certainly cut through all the bullshit and back-handers.

IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOUR LONGEVITY TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO FINN.

[Joni]

I reckon is was all warm and fuzzy stuff last night - giving people that chance they never had blah blah blah... Im all for it, but time will only tell if its for real. People start things with the greatest intentions - bit its keeping at it, day after day when things get tough, when the chips are down we will see if its for real.

If it is - I will be the first to say good for you... in fact I hope they do stick with it, it will be great inspiration for others.

[Sniper]

I didnt watch it, but I call bullshit. They cant spend years causing shit and then decide one day that they will turn around and stop all the bad things. It may be their current outlook, but give it a few years and it will change back.

Still, nothing a few 7.62s wouldnt fix

[Biohazard]

Wouldn't trust 'em as far as I could throw tbh, just a bullshit PR stunt. Nothing more, probably pushed to go on Air by Aunty Helen and her retarded bunch of followers ..oops i mean MP's ! to show to the minnions that all is wonderfull in NZ , where its actually going down hill as they refuse to punish crimes and instead pat them on the back..

Nuke the lot of 'em and start again.

[scumdog]

Strong on rhetoric but weak on action.

They're all a bunch of criminal leeches on society, the only ones they care about are their own - and then it's not all the time..

MAYBE few of the older ones might be mellowing but there's a shitload of lazy do-nothing agro criminal young punks with red hoodies and spastic hand waving to take their place.

A poorly veiled attempt at PR.
And a media 'space-filler' .