The Mongrel Mob

**Colapop** · 25th July 2006, 17:49

Ever had to confront one of these guys on their own? They're f*cking pussies. But as soon as ya let them go (coz you're sickened by the sight of someone who's literally pissed themselves) They start yelling abuse (as soon as they're far enough away) then you have to deal with ten of then that come back to get revenge. 1st rule - don't "play by the rules" coz they never do - f*cking animals.

**McJim** · 25th July 2006, 17:49

I'm new to New Zealand and still haven't got my head around the whole concept of criminals advertising that they're criminals or part of a criminal fraternity in the first place. Back home the really dangerous dudes tend to be very inconsipicuous, driving normal cars, wearing normal clothes etc. to avoid general public reprisals. Surely the Mongrel Mob must lose a fair number of their members when someoner who was wronged by them goes vigilante with a shotgun etc?

**acewheelie** · 25th July 2006, 17:55

Originally Posted by Big McJim

I'm new to New Zealand and still haven't got my head around the whole concept of criminals advertising that they're criminals or part of a criminal fraternity in the first place. Back home the really dangerous dudes tend to be very inconsipicuous, driving normal cars, wearing normal clothes etc. to avoid general public reprisals. Surely the Mongrel Mob must lose a fair number of their members when someoner who was wronged by them goes vigilante with a shotgun etc?

No, because the rest of us are whipped pussies and let them get away with it. Also the law take a dim view of citizens that practise self defence against the poor down trodden criminal fu&kwits that are ruining this country...

They give me the shits, the gangs and the judges, don't really know which is worse to be honest.

**Paul in NZ** · 25th July 2006, 19:09

Originally Posted by Finn

No. Cause I'm short, ugly and deaf.

Yeah but you compensate well with your sunny disposition so it's all good... (am I typing loud enough for you to hear?)

**chanceyy** · 25th July 2006, 19:27

I have to say when I watched the program I was pretty sceptical and it will take more than a prog or several yrs of "good behaviour" to change my mind

hats definately off to the husband/wife team helping them .. just hope it does not come back to haunt them later, also the time and energy they have put into the young ppl that they have taken in .. that is when you want to try and change a life is in its youth.

at least the gang have put the hard work into the centre so kids can get the benefits. If the older members can see their children going down the same road as themselves and wanting something better for them .. then good on them for supporting their children to get out of their bad habits ..

But realisitically its prob too late for their kids .. may be a shot for their grandkids though, as one leader said they have been a product of their upbringing, & are trying to break the cycle. lets hope for the betterment of society it will work but like others .. not holding my breath ...

**Colapop** · 25th July 2006, 19:35

Originally Posted by Big McJim

I'm new to New Zealand and still haven't got my head around the whole concept of criminals advertising that they're criminals or part of a criminal fraternity in the first place. Back home the really dangerous dudes tend to be very inconsipicuous, driving normal cars, wearing normal clothes etc. to avoid general public reprisals. Surely the Mongrel Mob must lose a fair number of their members when someoner who was wronged by them goes vigilante with a shotgun etc?

Yep they do, actually. Or at least they used to, before they got all "We're good guys now"
"We haven't got cross cultural/gang agreements so that we can make more money off 'P' and other less conspicuous crime" - *Tui moment*
And yeah the Mongrels and a fair number of others, Headhunters, Highway 61, Black Power etc, are dressing in less conspicuous clothes and driving relatively ordinary cars and mixing in society circles. The ones you see are either the worst of the worst, John Gillies etc, or they're just 'associates'.

**Motu** · 25th July 2006, 20:49

The Mongrel Mob are the worst of the lot - and you can't just resign and fade away like in the other gangs,they got you for life.

But I used to know a Mob member who was at least trying to turn his life,and more importantly the life of his kids around.This was in about 2000 when I knew him - he was up in Auckland and teaching his boys to box,he was renting a gym for training,and drove all over the country taking them to fights.He was pretty serious about it,putting in a lot of time with his two boys.OK,so boxing is not such a good thing to use for bonding and getting out of an abusive lifestyle,but you'll find boxing is a common way of getting kids off the streets,getting a purpose in life and rising above their station.

I remember one day he was away and told the boys to stay away from the van - but they went joy riding in it....and blew up the gearbox! He came down to work one night with the older boy,and I had to break it to him that the gearbox was really rooted - and he was really,really angry! He layed into the boy with heavy verbal abuse,I don't have to write it down here,but it wouldn't take much imagination to know what he was saying to the boy....much displeasure expressed.I was a bit troubled,I knew the boy was really going to get it....he just stood there in sulky defiance,he knew he had done wrong,that his father was really pissed off with him....but he was strong and was going to take it like a man.I watched them walk across and up the road,him never letting up the abuse on the boy - but I never saw him hit him.But I was certain he was going to get it at home.They came in the next day and there wasn't a mark on the boy...no fat lip or black eye,no bruising on his body,no limp.I was kinda proud of the father - he was strong enough to pull his punches and not perpetuate the physical abuse...it's a start eh?

One day looking through his van for an address or phone number for contact I came across a letter,and I thought it might tell me his contact details.It was a handwritten letter in neat cursive writting - from a mother to her son or sons.Ok,maybe she got someone to write it for her in jail,but I don't think so,this was from the mother.She told the boys how much she missed them,how much she loved them,how it broke her heart she couldn't be with them.This was a much read letter,it had been handled often,some one got a lot out of it.....I sure did.

They are still humans,we can't judge them unless we know them....

**avgas** · 25th July 2006, 21:27

I second Motu. I've met lots of gang members, and on their own they are ok.
But those fucken wankers with attitudes (who usually ride for shit - a bit of FYI). They will always be cocks

**sels1** · 25th July 2006, 21:58

Originally Posted by chanceyy

hats definately off to the husband/wife team helping them...

That couple were amazing, the help they had given to hundreds of people - not just the mob types. And without any taxpayer handouts too.

**SARGE** · 25th July 2006, 22:55

Originally Posted by Sniper

I didnt watch it, but I call bullshit. They cant spend years causing shit and then decide one day that they will turn around and stop all the bad things.

hey I did ..

i used to invade soverign nations, randomly shoot civillians, destroy infrastructures, blow up hospitals, schools and churches... poison drinking water sources, overthrow governments..

**Ixion** · 25th July 2006, 23:09

A man after me own heart.

In the meantime, to keep those skills honed up, get down to Hamihole on Thursday night.

There's a bunch of terrorists from the MoT (That's Mujahadeen of Terrorism, y'know) that need sorting out.

**Dadpole** · 25th July 2006, 23:15

Originally Posted by SARGE

hey I did ..

i used to invade soverign nations, randomly shoot civillians, destroy infrastructures, blow up hospitals, schools and churches... poison drinking water sources, overthrow governments..

Go on... indulge yourself - It's only Auckland!

**SARGE** · 25th July 2006, 23:20

Originally Posted by Ixion

A man after me own heart.

In the meantime, to keep those skills honed up, get down to Hamihole on Thursday night.

There's a bunch of terrorists from the MoT (That's Mujahadeen of Terrorism, y'know) that need sorting out.

Sniper and i will take care of it ..maybe get Street Gerbil on it too..