Don't take a knife to a gunfight !

[Patrick]

I was thinking of the "killer highway" through Maungatawhere.
Where Jafa's go to die.

Yep... especially there... Is the Red Fox still going???

[ManDownUnder]

12 gauge with 3" 00 buck rounds. He wouldn't have got to his feet after that.

FLAME THROWER!

HOWITZER!

HAND GRENADES!


Or the poor bastard may not have had so much time to choose... "hold on mate - I'll just select a gun to shoot you with... hmm... ballistics of the 357 vs the 44 Mag... dunno. Weight of the gun, accuracy, overall stopping ability bringing into mind the range, and size of target...

Yep - that's the one for me.

Ok... now carry on - were you going to threaten me?"

I think not.

[McJim]

Either you're trolling, or you're a moron.

Hey dude - what's trolling? And how long did you manage to hold a wheelie on a FXR150?

Cheers

P.S. I know what moron means so I didn't ask.

P.P.S. (back on topic) why are the general public allowed guns anyway?

[ManDownUnder]

Hey dude - what's trolling? And how long did you manage to hold a wheelie on a FXR150?

Cheers

P.S. I know what moron means so I didn't ask.

P.P.S. (back on topic) why are the general public allowed guns anyway?

Trolling... Writing something inflammatory = "putting out bait to start an argument"

Moron.. oh - ok

The general public are allowed hand guns because they have a number of uses in areas like pest control, and recreation.

[McJim]

Thanks ManDownUnder....guess I'm a troll too then coz sometimes I just can't resist.....

[Swoop]

The general public are allowed hand guns because they have a number of uses in areas like pest control, and recreation.

And.... to defend gunshops with!

Oh crap... we're back where we started...

[ManDownUnder]

Thanks ManDownUnder....guess I'm a troll too then coz sometimes I just can't resist.....

You bastard! I'd never do that myself...

[scumdog]

FLAME THROWER!

HOWITZER!

HAND GRENADES!


Or the poor bastard may not have had so much time to choose... "hold on mate - I'll just select a gun to shoot you with... hmm... ballistics of the 357 vs the 44 Mag... dunno. Weight of the gun, accuracy, overall stopping ability bringing into mind the range, and size of target...

Yep - that's the one for me.

Ok... now carry on - were you going to threaten me?"

I think not.

12 guage shotgun slug = 32.6 gm

.44 revolver bullet = 13gm

9mm Glock bullet = 7.2 gm

Guess which I'd use?

PS In the days of the British Empire there were special 'Howdah Pistols', 12 guage, 4 barrels, I bet they hurt at both ends eh?

[Shadows]

Actually the best weapon in NZ for stopping all the low life’s committing crime is to cut off their benefits. Even if we cut social welfare by 50%, we would have $30+ billion to play with. Even if a portion of this went back into policing, the cops would have more resources to work on preventive crime rather than working as glorified meter maids for the Government. We'd have to give the judges a kick up the arse too but you get my drift.

For once I would have to disagree with you Finn.
If the benefits were slashed tomorrow there'd be even more shitbags out there robbing/mugging/home invading the working masses, and selling more P to school kids. In fact there'd probably be a sudden flood of carjackings and other shit hardly heard of now.
We'd probably need every cent of the "savings" just to keep up with the increase in crime and all the new prisons we'd have to build to house the fuckers committing it.

[Ixion]

Yep... especially there... Is the Red Fox still going???

The pub where the publican was brutally murdered and noone was ever convicted? Yes. Why do you ask?

[Shadows]

noise as 22mag and a few deer around to deal with that nobody needs to 'hear' about ).

Geez I thought you guys would be out of the poaching business after that furore up north a couple of years ago
Wasn't you, was it?

[Ixion]

For once I would have to disagree with you Finn.
If the benefits were slashed tomorrow there'd be even more shitbags out there robbing/mugging/home invading the working masses, and selling more P to school kids. In fact there'd probably be a sudden flood of carjackings and other shit hardly heard of now.
We'd probably need every cent of the "savings" just to keep up with the increase in crime and all the new prisons we'd have to build to house the fuckers committing it.

I doubt there would be much of an increase in crime.The real crims look on welfare as an added bonus. It is a small a part of their total income. If removed they would not actively seek to replace it .What you *would* see is an increase in the suicide rate as the genuinely sick and disabled were reduced to the point that they had no hope any more. Not all beneficiaries are bludgers. I hope none of you ever become sick or disabled. New Zealand is not a kind country, there is a colassol cruelty in this country. You only have to read some of the posts on this site. And oddly, some of the toughest posters are the most merciful. And the bleeding hearts the cruelest.

[Shadows]

I doubt there would be much of an increase in crime.The real crims look on welfare as an added bonus. It is a small a part of their total income. If removed they would not actively seek to replace it .What you *would* see is an increase in the suicide rate as the genuinely sick and disabled were reduced to the point that they had no hope any more. Not all beneficiaries are bludgers. I hope none of you ever become sick or disabled. New Zealand is not a kind country, there is a colassol cruelty in this country. You only have to read some of the posts on this site. And oddly, some of the toughest posters are the most merciful. And the bleeding hearts the cruelest.

The real crims you speak of would not need to change. I wasn't referring to organised crime, but to the opportunist, make a quick dollar in desperation type stuff committed by people without a lot of intelligence. Those types of crimes are the most violent and have the most effect on Joe Public. There are a lot out there on the bread line, often as a lifestyle choice, who wouldn't need much encouragement to seek out "other" forms of income if they suddenly had to.

Re your other point, there are distinct lines of demarcation between genuine sickness beneficiaries / ACC recipients, and dole bludgers. I don't think the intent of the original post was to lump every type of welfare payment together, and propose to cut the lot. Yes, there are people out there who genuinely deserve a helping hand, I would never dispute that.

[scumdog]

Geez I thought you guys would be out of the poaching business after that furore up north a couple of years ago
Wasn't you, was it?

Nope, too cunning for that now.
(made all the usual dumb mistakes many years ago when I was young though)

[Patrick]

The pub where the publican was brutally murdered and noone was ever convicted? Yes. Why do you ask?

We were there that night! Always popped in for a feed on the way to Hot Water Beach for the weekends.

BTW they have suspects, just not enough evidence.