Tornado Alley
Originally Posted by Swoop
Oh, I get it now... you're TRYING to be funny... or retarded (but maybe that comes naturally)...
Victims are dead/raped, whatever, we lock up the murderer/rapist, but because of some gripe about a ticket, that YOU haven't even had (????) YOU would let them off. Have I still got it right? Surely I have it wrong. No one can be that dumb.... maybe....
e mare libertas
FWIW, I'll chuck in a 'me too' with regards to Spud's opinion on the legal niceties. Clear-cut case of justifiable self-defense, so assault charges won't stick, but woe betide the gunshop owner if he broke any rules about storing weapons and ammunition.
Bear in mind that keeping magazines loaded is a no-no. As far as I recall, SAI don't keep revolvers under the glass counter, just automatic pistols (I should know, with the time I've spent drooling over that counter) so we're talking about slapping in a pre-loaded mag here, not feeding loose rounds into a revolver. Woopsy. (Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone?)
I called a friend who's a bit of a gun nut and has known the SAI guys in question for quite some time as soon as I heard the story. His comment was that he's not surprised, as they've been saying for years how they'll do exactly that, should such a situation ever arise. Might make it difficult to play the "we are but 'umble storekeepers, yer 'onour" card.
As I've stated before, I think that NZ's firearms laws are about the best in the world vis-a-vis keeping a good balance between making shooting an accessible sport and limiting access to weapons to those who will use them responsibly. I'll be watching the outcome of this case with interest.
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Salted Pork
You are a blow hard!
Why would I bother to train with a Glock at 70 meteres when I have a .223 Bushmaster slung over my shoulder?
If I had to shoot at someone from 70 metres it would be because they are firing at me and I'm not going to pull my head out from behind cover for the length of time that it would take to make a deliberate aim shot with a Glock at that distance.
Anybody with a background in law enforcement will tell you that the majority of police shhotings are in reactive situations inside 5 metres. Theres no point training to shoot a pistol over a distance of 70 or even 50 metres, if the offender is that far away they probably aren't a threat to you unless they are shooting at you, in which case you will be seeking cover, cordoning, containing and calling the big boys with the big guns.
Salted Pork
Exactly!...........constantly hear on this website guys moaning about cops writing tickets blah blah blah..sure its a bastard when you get one but generally you dont get them for nothing,take all the cops off the roads and see how much fun that is...motorcyclists would have a very short life expectancy i would imagine.
Salted Pork
And warning them constantly improves driver behaviour how?
Personally I'd be in favour of knee-capping bad drivers but I can't see that ever being legislated.
Forum whore
And often not ordered by the court. Crime victims don't get treated well by the system, but that is the fault of the courts, not the police (in general, anyway)
Kiwi back at home!
Yup thats about the same effectivness as ticketing to most!
Where the changes need to made is licensing, not policing, stop the bad drivers before they get on to the road not once there there. Prevention is always better than curing a problem.
Salted Pork
Can't argue with that.
Forum whore
Maybe we should change the title of this thread to, "I'm not mature enough to accept the consequences of my actions".
Tornado Alley
Maybe we should change the title of this thread to, "I'm not mature enough to accept the consequences of my actions".
Nice one Matt.... gotta share the bling around!
Tornado Alley
Swoops gone quiet... must have realised how pathetic he sounded...
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
A murder caused by stabbing.
Edit for above post: Swoop has been giving birth to politicians all weekend - both ends...
There's nothing like nice friendly porcelain to hug...
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Guest
The father raised a good point in the Herald this morning. He wants to know why the mongrel hasn't been charged yet. There is enough evidence to show that he intended to kill the people in the store and so far all the attention has been on the shooter.
If this doesn't show how our system believes that offenders are the real victims then what does?
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
So you also wouldn't train to use the .223 at 1-2metres either?
Good to know that you get the full use out of all your equipment.
It is possible you will only have the pistol on/with you so why not learn to use it better?
If the situation calls for the .223 then shit has already gone down...
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Hardcore Biker
You're all missiing the point here!! There machate wielder is a good mate of the shooter!!
Machete Man: I'll come in waving this machete around
Shooter: Yeah yeah, and I promise to shoot you in your tummy
MM: Yeah, ACC will pay 'coz it was an accident I suffered and I won't get charged 'coz of the bleeding hearts in government
Shooter: And I'll be let off on self-defence
All this is a ploy to create interest in the machete and pistol, which will soon be "lost" from the courts locker and find themselves on trademe!!
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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