M3 BMW vs Falcon XR8 vs 919 Nana

[skelstar]

Do my best Finn.

[skelstar]

1:20 soounds a bit optimistic for me. What are F3 times like (I will be slower, but its a known quantity)?

[The_Dover]

if you can't beat a couple of homo's in hairdressers cars then give up now bro.

[Timber020]

M3 is going to breakfast the rest of you, I used to race porsches on my RGV around taupo, the thing is that car drivers often dont know how big or close they are and dont like the idea of getting scratches. if you want to win your going to have to keep close to them and keep them wide, screw with there lines and late apex, this way your can dictate the race how you want it to be, a HP match.
for christ sake dont try to match anything that they do because its like trying to chase a guy on ice when he has spiked shoes. sure you can get up speed but he can slow and change direction like you can only dream of. If they are infront of you try to ignore them, dont take there braking points into consideration, they might be about to crash. just ride your own race unless you start to get to close.

My sensible side says just let them go and stay clear, but how did we ever get quick or have fun being sensible?

[skelstar]

T20 - I know what you mean. Get infront and weave like a bastard?
Again, it would be good just to shadow, then blast them on the exit. Thats all that they will care about I reckon. Straightline speed.

[Toast]

Honestly, I reckon you're going to have to f'kin gun it. Performance car brakes and cornering are way ahead of what can be done with a bike - although obviously the bike accelerates way harder. The other thing is that the car boyos have less to lose in terms of broken ribs etc. if they do have a velocity related incident.

On the plus side, give them something to aim for and they'll be looking at a grand a head for new tyres at the end of the day. Gnaaaaa!

Can be done. Going to be tight. When is it again?

Dave

Ah, good old bike vs. car, just waht I feel like.

With average Joes going at it, it comes down to the relative skill of each more than the vehicle.

With Andrew Stroud going at it on a road bike vs. Greg Murphy in a road car, it's no contest, the bike will destroy the car.

A Careera Cup driver told me that the top dudes can get 1:05ish around Puke from a GT3 RS in road trim. Stroud gets sub-60 on a standard K5 I'm told.

The brakes and cornering of road cars are better, but not that much better if you can exploit what the bike has, which most of us can't really.

Compare the times of the race version of each (bike and car) to their road equivalents though, and you see that the bikes are really pushing the envelope of the grip that two wheels can generate.

Have fun on the track Skels, but focus on what you're doing, not what you'd like to be doing (on one wheel out of the corner around the outside )

[skelstar]

Cheers...its going to be bloody fun.
If I beat the XR8 then Ill be happy.

[kiwifruit]

you should have a good shot at cleaning up i recon
i dont think its a good idea if you are all out there together, could get messy....
time trail would be sweet

lettuce know how you get on!

[skelstar]

Well I reckon Ill sound the best anyway .

[mikey]

can i come?

[skelstar]

You be watching.
I thought I be hearing from you soon enough Mikey...

[Kornholio]

Im picking you'll get run over....Hope ya dont tho.

[slowpoke]

can i come?

I bet you say that to all the girls....

[slowpoke]

Yep, the M3 is awesome and your main threat. We had an old e36 M3 in Oz and even with just 215kw it was a quick car, the faster it went the better it got.
You don't say how old the XR8 is but if it's a relatively new one then it ain't gonna be slow.
As per previous posts/threads it's really gonna come down to driver/rider comparison rather than machinery comparison. Your bike should be quicker but the "pucker factor" is gonna be the limiting thing. With limited track time you'll be worried about damaging the bike and/or yourself if everything goes horizontal whereas even an inexperienced driver will be able to push it much harder with only having to worry about a spin.
Good luck tho' bro, how's about racing for rego's to really make it interesting, haha.....

[mikey]

I bet you say that to all the girls....

i dont ask.

anyway, when is this track day? got it cleared with track peopel that you'll be out with the cars? sounds like a fuckload of fun, when i asked if i could go out with the v8's last open day i was looked at like i was an idiot