Signing his own death warrant

[Qkchk:Me]

Now tell me do you drive your truck with your lights on? I always did but I was mostly on the open road... it did make a difference dosnt mater if its a bike or a 44 toner.

I do religiously. As per the photo. I ALWAYS drive with my fog/driving lights on - Being a huge monstrosity on the road, you would think people would see you........nope.

[Qkchk:Me]

Another possiblity is that seeing the bike in question was an R80 beemer it may have had it's light switched on but remember quality Bosch electrics & water don't mix

Good point, let's hope that was the answer.......... green awarded.

[Waylander]

I do religiously. As per the photo. I ALWAYS drive with my fog/driving lights on - Being a huge monstrosity on the road, you would think people would see you........nope.

Haha my respect for you just shot up. Don't know if I could surpress the urge to filter if I was the one behind the wheel of that thing.

[Rashika]

always ride with my lights on, no choice, HD's have had them on permanently for a long time...I think... at least BuellBabe's previous bikes always had them on.

I seem to recall an incident involving my tent and sleeping mat getting melted on to the front of a particular purple coloured sporty...having your light on all the time is not ALWAYS a good thing!
Insurance is GREAT, sleeping in a tent with 20 holes is NOT so great! Just as well Wgtn did not live up to its usual reputation

[Hitcher]

I'm of the opinion that all vehicles should have their lights on at any speed over 40kph and that it should be illegal to drive with only park lights on. Most here I think ride with lights on. There was a poll on this at one time.

You Sir, are a Prince. Of course it should be illegal to drive with park lights on, and it is. That's why they're called "park lights". When I am CEO of LTNZ, I shall make it mandatory for the park light switch to be concealed in the boot of all vehicles, rather than as the first click on a column stalk.

This falls into the "myths and legends" of the Road Code. People who "think" that because it isn't properly dark yet, they'd better make a token effort at proactive visibility. Just in case. Irrespective of whether their parkers are actually visible or not. And while they've figured that part of the column stick out, they haven't yet determined that it goes up and down as well, activating the orange flashing lights on the corners of their vehicle.

And people who will not travel faster than 70kmh in an 80kmh zone because they "think" that 80kmh isn't a proper limit and that they'd better meander at 70, just to be on the safe side.

And then there's the ferking AA that thinks that it is a good idea to change the right-hand-turn rules, just because people don't understand them. For fuck's sake, if ever there was a compelling argument for better and ongoing driver education, that would have to be it. Isn't the AA meant to support driver training initiatives?

(Dismounts steaming hobby horse. Returns it to stable).

[Rashika]

(Dismounts steaming hobby horse. Returns it to stable).

errr slight change of subject...how is that new steed of yours??

[froggyfrenchman]

And people who will not travel faster than 70kmh in an 80kmh zone because they "think" that 80kmh isn't a proper limit and that they'd better meander at 70, just to be on the safe side.

That used to really piss me off, now i pass them, and the cops that sting me for it piss me off

[yungatart]

Maybe his headlights were faulty, maybe he forgot to turn them on, maybe he always rides with them off, who knows. Its a personal choice thing, surely and who are we to pass judgement. As for more laws, no thanks! We have more than enough already, IMHO

[Motig]

I remember reading that article T.W.R and dredging my memory the results were not what they expected. That said I definitely think common sense should be used for lights as in driving to the conditions should also be followed. Lights on high beam tho is not commonsense and will just annoy the oncoming driver who'll probably think your just another ignorant pratt on the road. And remember the road code says they must be dipped for oncoming traffic. They dont need another excuse to give you a ticket.

[mstriumph]

- erm -is this another one of those threads where people who wear full armoured leathers and stainless steel underpants to ride down the driveway get to feel superior to those who wear shorts and t shirt and trust to luck?

it's been said before - we all have choices ......... and, last time i looked, it still wasn't illegal to act unwisely ............... if safety were only as SIMPLE as riding with your lights on it would be perfectly legitimate to legislate that everyone must do it ---------- but it isn't sooo it isn't

sad - but most cagers wouldn't see us if we covered our bikes with flashing bling and rode the roads flashing ourselves stark naked playing the banjo with our hair dyed dayglo orange with purple streaks

we are invisible
get used to it

[Troll]

What a twat! I ride with mine on high beam during the day. It fucks people off, and I get lights flashed etc, but I know they've seen me

no you are the twat, get pissed off with nuisnace bikers like yourself dazzeling people via the rear vision mirrors

respect for the others on the road tends to get the same in return

idiots like your self do not do motorcycling any favours and just harden peoples attitutes against us

[Scorpygirl]

Maybe his headlights were faulty, maybe he forgot to turn them on, maybe he always rides with them off, who knows. Its a personal choice thing, surely and who are we to pass judgement. As for more laws, no thanks! We have more than enough already, IMHO

I don't want anymore laws either and people do have the choice, I agree. However if I hit someone in the cage (car or bike) cause there are no lights and it is pea soup fog then ....... yeah it's my fault.

[Jonny Rotten]

cant turn mine off and thats a good thing

[MSTRS:Me]

no you are the twat, get pissed off with nuisnace bikers like yourself dazzeling people via the rear vision mirrors

respect for the others on the road tends to get the same in return

idiots like your self do not do motorcycling any favours and just harden peoples attitutes against us

He did say during the day...no dazzle as a rule. Highly seeable tho...he has had no-one repeat no-one pull out on him since he was advised to ride with high beam on by someone else on this site. You may think what you like, but twat or otherwise, he will live longer.

[GIXser]

Just one (of the many) things that grate me as a truckdriver..........

I happened to be heading home over the harbor bridge when I spotted this idiot on a BLACK BMW R80, dressed in Black as well. Besides riding in the worst possible colour (for the conditions - raining and very overcast/dark skies) this twit didnt have his headlight on! This guy was really hard to see.....

My question is, why doesn't the NZ govt make it law for all motorcyclist to have your headlight on permanently? I have wondered this many times and I still continue to see temporary NZers ride without one...... when you think more about it, if all bikes had their lights on, cars would be more aware of an approaching bike at intersections and crash numbers would no doubt fall. Quite a common quote "I wasn't looking for a motorcycle at the intersection" people see cars and bigger vehicles but sometime fail to look and/or think about motorcycles.

One good thing to comment on is that most new bikes (jappas, not sure about American/British/European) have the headlight on fulltime and the rider cant turn it off. Is this a new 'pre-requisite' for NZ compliance?

Your thoughts............

i think more importantly we should address truckies" " why is that truckies always speed and predominately drive in the fast lane, only last week i was driving my car and this truck nearly took me out-- i reckon cos most of em,(excluding present company ) are fucking thick C##nts that got their driver training from weetbix packets, either that or they are P 'd up to the eyeballs, trying to get another load delivered-- they are a firken menace and dangerous,,

as far as the bmw all in black with no lights,, he's/she's probably a truckie""