KTM 950cc Vtwin Superenduro

**laRIKin** · 12th August 2006, 19:44

Originally Posted by cooneyr

The little fuel tank sux though. Can only hope that KTM makes a bigger one like they do for the LC4 640 E's (havent looked cause whats the point!).

Yep they make a 18L and a 28L tank that goes from the Adventure model for the LC4.

And I'll wait to see if a bigger tank comes along for the Super E.

**rogson** · 13th August 2006, 16:04

Ridiculous bike at a ridiculous price.
Wait for the dirt version(s) of the 690 single (prob 2008).
Far more practical.

**miSTa** · 13th August 2006, 16:36

Just buy the bloody thing man, you know you want to, SDU will get over it eventually...

**jonbuoy** · 13th August 2006, 19:16

Thats bikes crying out for some sticky road rubber on the rims and a twisty back road.

**Dazza** · 14th August 2006, 09:49

Yeah wouldn't mind a hoon on it but I think I'd start on a gravel road before venturing into the dirt, my LC4's heavy enough off road or maybe I just need to harden up.

**clint640** · 14th August 2006, 10:48

Originally Posted by lemans

Yep they make a 18L and a 28L tank that goes from the Adventure model for the LC4.

And I'll wait to see if a bigger tank comes along for the Super E.

I wonder if the 950 Supermoto tank would bolt on?

Cheers
Clint

**laRIKin** · 14th August 2006, 16:48

Originally Posted by clint640

I wonder if the 950 Supermoto tank would bolt on?

Cheers
Clint

Don't tease me.

Rik

PS: I had to edit a earlier post, The range stays the same but the Super E has a 13L tank and not a 15L.

PPS: Just read in a mag that it has a 14.5L tanks. What gives, does every one just pick a number they like?

**cooneyr** · 14th August 2006, 18:52

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

Thats bikes crying out for some sticky road rubber on the rims and a twisty back road.

You mean like this one -
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-65339653.htm
They've been around a little longer than the super enduro I think but not 100% sure.

R

**laRIKin** · 23rd August 2006, 18:34

Originally Posted by cooneyr

You mean like this one -
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-65339653.htm
They've been around a little longer than the super enduro I think but not 100% sure.

R

Yep they have been around for all most a year now, I think.

I have just read this report on the bike by a new owner at the KTMtalk.com site with the user name of Rovman
Thanks mate it was good to read a review from a normal person point of view.

Originally Posted by Rovman

Well,
I have 300 miles on my SE and have ridden the bike in many environments. The street riding has really surprised me. It really handles well, even with the Karoo's mostly geared toward offroad riding. So far, I have done some woods riding, a little single track, street, and fire roads. As someone mentioned earlier, the bike will pretty much do whatever YOU can do. The bike has the potential but it takes a fair amount of skill and strength to handle her.

For ....s and giggles, last week I took her down to the local MX track for some jumping. I showed up at the end of the day, hopeing that no one would be there, didn't want to embaress myself on this huge bike that is not really meant for the MX track.

First off I went to the sand drag strip to see how she handles in the deep sand. Wow lots of power and pretty stable in deep sand, just let the front end hunt a little push your weight back and hold on. I got up to about 65 mph in Deep sand with not much effort. The weight of the bike helps in deep sand tracking. However, the bike has more than enough power to exceed the level of traction the Karoo's can give. A smooth throttle hand, a little skill, and a little time to calibrate to the power and you should be able to adjust fairly quickly. After throwing rooster tails of sand about 75ft. long and 12 ft. high behind the bike I started to draw a crowd.

So, I made and exit and went over to a few jumps that were set up next to the sand drag strip. I was feeling good and jumps were calling so I decided to take it slow and build up speed slowly will getting the bike aloft. These were your typical table top jumps that were about 6 ft. high with a table top about 12 ft. long on top then sloping back to the ground. It was a little circuit with a few berms and 3 jumps. I believe it is a little circuit used to warm up the rider and bike prior to getting on the track.

After I went around 2 or 3 times there were about 8 or 10 guys watching. So what do you do when people are watching, start to show off a bit. Coming up to the first jump I brought up the speed to about 40 mph and the bike was roughly 10 feet in the air and cleared the table top and landed about 5 feet passed the jump alltogether. The landing was absolutly plush and smooth. I was floored. I was expecting to bottom out and have a really hard landing, but I experienced the exact opposite. I pulled off and checked my tie wrap on the front forks and it was about 1 1/2 inch from bottoming out. NOT BAD. At the time I hadn't touched the suspension yet, so this was the stock set up.

I then got back on the bike and went around for about 10 more circuits. All the jumps I went about as fast as before and the bike handled every one effortlessly. On the last time around I brought the speed up close to 45 mph , according to the people watching with eyes and mouths wide open, The bike was probably 12 feet in the air and I flew about 8 to 10 ft. passed the jump. The bike handled that just as good as all the other launches. Needless to say before Murphy reared his ugly head I decided to call it a day. My buddy and I pulled off to chew the fat and proceded to get mobbed by the people watching. The normal question were flying, what is it?, how many cc's?, etc. etc. etc.

Long story short, the bike has some very good and capable suspension. I weigh 195 lbs, and add about 20 more pounds with my riding gear, so with roughly 215 lbs. on the bike she handled those jumps without even blinking.
Needless to say I AM VERY HAPPY WITH MY PURCHASE.

Some more information ya'll (from the south) might be interested in:
I was there with my buddy who happens to have a BMW HP2. We went there to compare thier offroad and suspension capabilities. We swapped bikes while we were there and I got test the HP2 on the same terrain that I rode my 950 on. I have to say that the HP2 feels very different yet is just as capable. The suspension is a little softer though. With me on his bike I was coming close to bottoming. He weighs about 250 lbs and was bottoming on his bike, coming close to on the SE. Without getting into to much detail, the suspension is totaly different on the HP2, The front forks have no spring preload adjusting, but have 2 rebound adjustments????? One is for normal rebound and the other is linear rebound???? not quite sure.

Anyway he is still learning about the suspension so perhaps it could be made to handle more weight, it will just take a little know how and set-up. The rear has a really trick AIR shock. No oil in it.... The bike also comes with an air pump so you can adjust the pressure(simulating spring pre-load). Pretty trick but I am not sure how proven. All in all, the suspension is top quality also, even though it takes a different approach. The one thing I did notice negative about the HP2 is when in low traction situations, the bikes back end would want to slide to one side and you would have to adjust to bring it back. Probably due to the shaft drive and torqueing issues. It wasn't too bad, and once I knew to expect it I could handle it pretty easily. It was just something I never had to deal with on my SE, due to its conventional lay out (chain drive). One thing that stand out about the HP2 is its abundance of torque. Wow, as soon as you are off idle, gobs of torque is available. Once again a judicial throtle hand is needed to get any sort of drive offroad. Both bikes have too much power for most offroad situations.

Did I just write that, too much power.
What I am hopeing to do next time we go for fun is to have a buddy of mine who is a photographer come along and take pictures of us excercising the bikes. Should be fun.

Rovman

**cooneyr** · 23rd August 2006, 20:21

Originally Posted by lemans

I have just read this report on the bike by a new owner at the KTMtalk.com site with the user name of Rovman
Thanks mate it was good to read a review from a normal person point of view.

That review is very interesting. Definatly sounds like a very cool bike. What was the link Lemans - I'm going to have to keep an eye on that one for some pics of the flying beautiful black and orange bike.

R

**Transalper** · 24th August 2006, 17:54

This might be a little out of context and maybe even posted before? but for you who like the KTM's and snow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhpkuaQanhQ

**laRIKin** · 24th August 2006, 18:14

Originally Posted by cooneyr

That review is very interesting. Definatly sounds like a very cool bike. What was the link Lemans - I'm going to have to keep an eye on that one for some pics of the flying beautiful black and orange bike.

R

Sure can CooneyR but the thread has dyed for the moment, but could fire up again after the weekend, when he has had another ride.

http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=183613