ATNR (Auckland Thursday night ride) - Discussion thread

[skidMark]

Mark,
I might not b the best rider out there and yes indeed I have much to learn, but this I know... regardless of what they say... i have 50 bucks that says if u ride in front of a cop at 120 he will ticket u. If he said he wudnt he wud b breakin the law. and hes noone to set a new speed limit, not that its a bad thing.. but hey, its just not gonna happen.

well 50 people that night heard them say it.

[Karma]

Do u really think if u do 120 in front of them they will not ticket u ? ur dreamin Mark...

It's true

regardless of what they say... i have 50 bucks that says if u ride in front of a cop at 120 he will ticket u. If he said he wudnt he wud b breakin the law. and hes noone to set a new speed limit, not that its a bad thing.. but hey, its just not gonna happen.

Then you owe me $50.

A few of us passed the copper doing 120 and he didn't do anything... instead he waited behind us until our speed 'allegedly' creeped up over the 150 mark before deciding to pull us over.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Then you owe me $50.

A few of us passed the copper doing 120 and he didn't do anything... instead he waited behind us until our speed 'allegedly' creeped up over the 150 mark before deciding to pull us over.

Thats a different issue, I was meaning if u constantly stay at 120. Hes obviously wanting ur lisence if he can get it. Im sure ud get pulled ova at 120, ive got pulled over all too often.

[Pancakes]

and thats the shit part. If 120 was truly as awful as they make it out to be they'dstop you asap. But no, they wait to see if they can get a few more points on the quota for an extra minutes work.

Do they go to a shooting and let the gunman walk around for a while longer to see if they can't do them for killing more people and lock them up for even longer?

You might think thats not that relevant but if they genuinely believe that you have a good chance of hurting yourself or anyone else at a speed abonve the legal limit they should stop you straight away not go fishing for a bigger catch! If they think you are endangering others they are using those lifes at risk to add a few more K's to your ticket. Do you really think that would be acceptable of a police officer?

[delusionz]

What you talkin about skid? I don't see you doin 120, maybe it's cause you crashed all your bikes lol

[Biggles08]

if u guys are trying to get him to really fuck you over

your doing a real good job at pissing him off if hes reading this....

I hope he is reading this! he's a Fuckwit and not because he's a cop (I have family members who are in the force)...he's a Fuckwit as a person! Power crazed Nazi....FUCKWIT!

[Morcs]

Mark,
I might not b the best rider out there and yes indeed I have much to learn, but this I know... regardless of what they say... i have 50 bucks that says if u ride in front of a cop at 120 he will ticket u. If he said he wudnt he wud b breakin the law. and hes noone to set a new speed limit, not that its a bad thing.. but hey, its just not gonna happen.

$50 to me too.

Most speedo's overread by an average of 7.5%, add in the 11kph lenience zone, at clock speed of 120kph you would be most doing 111kph real speed - not outside the leniency zone.

[Karma]

$50 to me too.

Most speedo's overread by an average of 7.5%, add in the 11kph lenience zone, at clock speed of 120kph you would be most doing 111kph real speed - not outside the leniency zone.

Actually you're wrong on that one... the whole point of the 10kph leniency is to cover for the fact that your speedo may read up to 10% out. You can't have 10kph then claim another 10%.

[westie]

Actually you're wrong on that one... the whole point of the 10kph leniency is to cover for the fact that your speedo may read up to 10% out. You can't have 10kph then claim another 10%.

There goes my excuse.

So are we gonna think about nice quiet raods to go on for another thurs ride?
Maybe discuss at the next briefing, as well its pretty clear we are being watched

[Morcs]

Actually you're wrong on that one... the whole point of the 10kph leniency is to cover for the fact that your speedo may read up to 10% out. You can't have 10kph then claim another 10%.

No, im correct. Im not combining them in the calculation.

120 clock speed > translates with speedo innacuracy of 7.5% = real speed of 111kph.

So its right on the border of the leniency

Thats why I will sit on the motorway at 120 (clock speed) and have never been pulled for it...

[Karma]

Well I can't say why you've not been pulled over, but the leniency of 10% is definitely because of the fact that your speedo may misread.

How fast we go is up to each of us, but lets not let the newbies think they can run around everywhere at 120kph and think it's legal.

[Morcs]

Well I can't say why you've not been pulled over, but the leniency of 10% is definitely because of the fact that your speedo may misread.

How fast we go is up to each of us, but lets not let the newbies think they can run around everywhere at 120kph and think it's legal.

Right in that sense, you are, wise daniel. I speak from personal experience. Want to set a bad example to the youngs ones we would not. Yes, hmmm.

[ManDownUnder]

Abuse of power.

So - as I said - hold 'em accountable.

No problems at all with that. Just as the motorcyclists abused privilege by speeding. We're trusted on the road to obey the laws too...

[ManDownUnder]

Well I don't know anything about last night as I wasn't there, but in my case I believe the copper pulled a number outta the air and was themselves committing an illegal act.

The law applies to the police as well, contrary to what they may think.

I have never argued the cops are above the law. Do the crime, do the time - a simple motto that relieves me of any anxiety when facing a fine or punishment I actually deserve.

If the cop was wrong - then yes defend thge ticket. Do it with all your might... the inverse statement also applies (you don't do the crime... etc).

[The Stranger:Me]

So - as I said - hold 'em accountable.

No problems at all with that. Just as the motorcyclists abused privilege by speeding. We're trusted on the road to obey the laws too...

Come on MDU, you are surely not that naive are you? Honestly.

Look at the outcome of recent rape trials when people have "held em accountable" for what is effectively an abuse of power.

No we aren't trusted to obey the road laws, where ever did that one come from?
Should we just accept a law because it is a law. No. If a law is unfair, unjust or arbitrary it is not my responsibility to obey it my friend, quite the opposite actually.

Abuse of power, in any of it's many forms, is not ok and for the very reason that recourse is often not the simple matter you would appear to suggest.