Question regarding Trademe

[Sniper]

You guys are just trying to get me locked up. No New Zealand policeman would believe a south african buying a gun outside a cop shop cause its nuetral territory.

[Ixion]

It'll be when you test fire it that they'll raise an eyebrow.

[far queue]

I asked the local firearms officer about whether they have to be notified about buying selling etc.
She said no they dont have to be. But I guess most people would keep a record of their firearms.
I have 2 rifles registered by buying off a shop, but the other 8 or so I've brought privately and the cops will have no reg.

This is correct. Under the old licensing system each indivudal rifle had to be registered with the cops, but a licence to procure was all that was required for as many shotguns as you liked. Under the current system a firearms license entitles you as many firearms as you like - of the correct type for your license. Individuals don't have to notify the cops of change of ownership, but dealers do have to notify the cops and keep accurate records.

[far queue]

Why don't you get yourself one of these? Ideal for duck shooting ... http://www.guncity.co.nz/40mm-bofor-...idp119997.html

[Sniper]

Nah, not stealthy enough.

[T.W.R]

MSSA rifles & pistols have to be recorded. And in section 7 states that purchasing a MSSA style rifle through mail order etc has to be varified by the purchaser with the police. And you have to have the correct endorsements on your licence.

Plus having your firearms documented by the cops does save yourself some shit if your burgled or a purchased rifle has a history.

[Sniper]

Yep, I see what you mean now.

Its an A cat rifle so its not subject to any of the above rules.

Good idea on having it recorded by the cops mate.... I have a list of my rifles and all serial numbers. I might pass them on to the arms officer.

[Swoop]

Its an A cat rifle so its not subject to any of the above rules.

Good idea on having it recorded by the cops mate.... I have a list of my rifles and all serial numbers. I might pass them on to the arms officer.

You are better off to keep a list of firearms and perhaps a second copy at work?
The police database isn't totally secure (one robbery to order of a collectors firearms already done), so keeping your own records is safer.

Meeting the seller away from your home is a safer option. Perhaps a gunshop would be better?

[far queue]

So, how did you get on with this Sniper? Did they make contact? Did you get the rifle?

[Sniper]

Yea I got it in the end thanks far queue. Bit of an arguement with the guy because he wasnt keen on meeting me anywhere but my house so I got him to meet me at my work while my collegues were around. He also got a little less too

[Patch]

Now for safety's sake, go register it with the Arms Officer, just in case its been used in a manner it should've have been. Be sure to include the chap's name and addy or TM name - cover your own ass man, you don't know where that has been used - the risk of buying privately from an idiot you don't know.

Its no big deal registering, ring an talk to them (Arms Officer) surprisingly enough they can be pleasant an helpful, dispite the general attitude towards the plod. If your house is ever burgled, your covered because they have all the necessary details on file.


my 2c - safety first

[Shadows]

I've brough a few rifles of TM and all the sellers have couriered them to me fortunately, after showing them a scanned pic of my licence.
I asked the local firearms officer about whether they have to be notified about buying selling etc.
She said no they dont have to be. But I guess most people would keep a record of their firearms.
I have 2 rifles registered by buying off a shop, but the other 8 or so I've brought privately and the cops will have no reg.

I'm surprised the arms officer didn't tell you the other important fact which is that a scanned image of your licence is not good enough evidence for the seller to release the rifle to you when you cannot meet and have him personally sight your licence.
The person sending you the firearm is leaving himself wide open to prosecution for doing so without having a letter from your arms officer stating that...
1) he has sighted your licence (and you are who you say you are),
2) you hold the correct class of licence for the firearm in question, and
4) you reside at a particular address (this is where the firearm must be sent).
You'd be fine receiving the rifle using a scanned image of your licence as evidence, but the seller wouldn't because he would be deemed as not taking the necessary precautions to ensure that he wasn't supplying an unlicensed person wih a firearm.
If you onsell any firearms yourself on Trademe or whatever it would pay to remember that, you never really know who you are sending them to otherwise.