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    Radar detector mounting issues. Comment sought.

    Decided that I have to get a radar detector. Shows what things have come to, when even Nana, who as you all know NEVER speeds, needs one

    Narrowed down to Valentine , Escort , or Bel RX65, with the latter in a slight lead.

    I think that performance wise all three are much of a muchness , but what IS exercising me is mounting, and output.

    Bear in mind, I need this readily portable. Four bikes, two cages, and I need to whip it from one to another. Quickly (otherwise I'll do the "can't be bothered - oh shit I should have bothered" trip).

    And the bikes are quite a range.

    Also, I'd rather it wasn't too obvious. For obvious reasons. Especially on the BMW. So, a question. What can the detector "see through". Can you mount it out of sight behind the plastic bodywork stuff. Or will that mask the radar signal too much? Does it have to face fore and aft? Can they be mounted vertical? Sideways? upside down?

    Power supply ? Any issues? Happy enough to wire in a feed and quick detach plug and socket on each bike/cage.

    And output. Not an issue in the cage. But on a bike I doubt I'd hear a beep beep. And prolly not notice a flashing light quickly enouigh either. Some models (maybe all three??) have an earphone jack.But then you have to have your head "wired up"?

    Yes I do know about HARD. Blurdy expensive, but. Anyone done / heard of anything with Bluetooth? Seems an obvious.

    Can the LED lights in the detector be extended to an LED mounted along the screen blad edge, where it's reasonably in line of vision?

    Anyone got anything helpful to suggest? Or caveats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion
    Decided that I have to get a radar detector. Shows what things have come to, when even Nana, who as you all know NEVER speeds, needs one
    Why would ya need one if you "Never" speed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick

    Why would ya need one if you "Never" speed?
    Because even those that avoiding breaking your precious speed limit times come say when you pass the truck you have been following at 70 for half an hour and you hit the only passing lane for hours and the truck speeds up to 100, so instead of risking a dangerous passing maneuaver somewhere else you speed up a little to get past the now speeding truck , and just as you safetly pull back in front of the truck some jumped up wanker of a pig is sitting at the end of the passing lane pinging normal law abiding citizens so he can get his qouta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick
    Why would ya need one if you "Never" speed?
    Because this is a public forum.

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    Ixion, got to Radardirect.co.nz. They have all sorts of mounting brackets. They are a bit expensive but very good. You'll have to decide where to mount it. Mine bolts onto the clutch clamp using replacement screws and brackets but there are many options. Wiring is easy as they come with all the looms. (V1 does anyway). The mounting plate has a velco patch so you can easily move it between vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    Because even those that avoiding breaking your precious speed limit
    My speed limit? Just like an old toy... I ignore it... don't throw em out of the cot now...

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    My Escort is on a custom mount which points through the screen. The detector is held onto it with Velcro and I have a clear vac-moulded waterproof cover over it. With microwaves like Ka band, solid objects like fairings and screens have stuff-all impact. Even a dirty or tinted screen can reduce laser (LIDAR) detection but I'm not too worried about them anyway.

    I have a speaker in the helmet which is fine other than occasionally accidentally disconnecting it. However, I'm going for a "screamer", see www.motorcycleradar.com. A riding partner of mine from the north shore has one on his 'bird and it's really impressive. No worries about disconnecting it either. I'd avoid visual cues as you're slower to react than from audible ones. If you want some photos of my set up, I'll happily send them.

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    Ixion, forgot that I'd given them to a friend to put on his website in the UK, follow this link: http://www.flyingferrets.eclipse.co....dar%20inst.htm

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    The Valentine is superior to the others in terms of sturdiness and being able to tell you where the signal is located. There is little, if any, difference in range, but the Valentine has a much better laser detection off-axis. Any detector must not be mounted with metallic objects shielding the antennas. They will detect through opaque plastic, but the laser sensor needs clear to see through.
    Contact Pixie for a transferable custom mount and he can also set up a screamer or in-helmet buzzer.
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    Dont know if you've heard of this, but there is a bike specific radar called the 'whistler' (waterproof, small and has the bonus of not even looking like a conventional radar). Havent talked to anyone yet who runs one so im not sure what it performs like compared to the other radars on the market, but by the sounds of it you may need two radars with the ammount of vehicles that you own.
    A real problem ive found is the power connections that my valentine plug into get worn and loose very quickly if i am constantly changing its position from bike to car-as a result ive found that its best to move them about as little as possible as if they are loose the radar turns itself on and off sporadically
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    Quote Originally Posted by VasalineWarrior
    Dont know if you've heard of this, but there is a bike specific radar called the 'whistler' (waterproof, small and has the bonus of not even looking like a conventional radar). Havent talked to anyone yet who runs one so im not sure what it performs like compared to the other radars on the market, but by the sounds of it you may need two radars with the ammount of vehicles that you own.
    A real problem ive found is the power connections that my valentine plug into get worn and loose very quickly if i am constantly changing its position from bike to car-as a result ive found that its best to move them about as little as possible as if they are loose the radar turns itself on and off sporadically

    V Twin Raver had a bike specific one on his ride, all hidden away in the fairings cept it didnt stand up to rain from what I heard and was failing from getting wet

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    The ear phone jack in my detector packed up after a short time from pluging and unplugging the earphones. I have now permantly wired in a curly lead that I plug the headphones into..
    I have made a mounting bracket that is bolted to the dash and the detector is attached by velcro.
    In adverse weather I slip a heavy duty plastic bag over the unit and secured it with a strechy band (daughters hair tie) this has worked well for over a year and a half so far. Only problem has been the earphones falling out when taking the helmet off and breaking when they hit the ground. Next set may have to be the over the ear type. I can still hear the intercom and transciever with the ear phones in so that works well for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn
    Ixion, got to Radardirect.co.nz. They have all sorts of mounting brackets. They are a bit expensive but very good. You'll have to decide where to mount it. Mine bolts onto the clutch clamp using replacement screws and brackets but there are many options. Wiring is easy as they come with all the looms. (V1 does anyway). The mounting plate has a velco patch so you can easily move it between vehicles.
    i have the same stuff from the same people with the hard system, only drawback is remembering to turn the hard sysem off so i dont have to replace batteries. The detector is useless without some other means of seeing/hearing teh alerts.

    i've never been nicked with it.. only without it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn
    Ixion, got to Radardirect.co.nz. They have all sorts of mounting brackets. They are a bit expensive but very good..
    Actually Finn, they are fuggin expensive. The very same mounts are available from www.motorcycleradar.com at a much, much lower price. They also won't feed you bullshit about there being "NZ Spec" detectors, which radardirect are only too happy to do.
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