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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin View Post
    clutch out enough to stop me rolling.
    Whilst perhaps not so bad for short periods on a bike with a wet clutch riding the clutch like this is really not the best idea.
    In general a clutch should not be slipped where not necessary.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    ...The best tests I have seen for bikes was an R6 with diablos stopping at 0.98 G, most bikes can only hope for a decelleration of 0.5 - 0.8 G. The best production cars can also stop at around 0.9 G, but again that is with a very experienced driver onboard. However even an inexperienced driver will manage 0.6 G...
    Check some of your car figures, they aren't consistent with my test data. We're pulling up to 1.08 G's in the Mazda 3 on street tyres on NZ coarse chip roads, hardly 'the best' production car. I've got data for many common new cars since 2004, on different surfaces, different weather, etc...Even cars with crap ABS are pulling up in more than .8G. The worst braking we've recorded was still peaking at .67G (before lockup), that was an old Supra.

    In distance terms, most new cars are stopping from 100km/h in around 130-140 feet. The best we're getting is in the low 100's (usually Mazdas again), but we haven't tested a 'proper' sports car yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaN View Post
    Whilst perhaps not so bad for short periods on a bike with a wet clutch riding the clutch like this is really not the best idea.
    In general a clutch should not be slipped where not necessary.
    i only do it when im sitting on a slight incline...where theres a chance of my rolling backwards. tried the brakes, but prefer both feet on the ground, and hand ready to accelerate when needed. tried using my legs, but the lights take too long lol. clutch is only out a little, just enough to engage the engine, and i have the throttle enough to match. hard to explain, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin View Post
    i only do it when im sitting on a slight incline...where theres a chance of my rolling backwards. tried the brakes, but prefer both feet on the ground, and hand ready to accelerate when needed. tried using my legs, but the lights take too long lol. clutch is only out a little, just enough to engage the engine, and i have the throttle enough to match. hard to explain, lol.
    I understand where you are coming from, it is actually a common practice, even with car drivers.

    Where the clutch lever is fully out or fully in there should be no clutch wear and no heat generated (from the clutch). Where the clutch is slipping it is both wearing and generating heat due to friction.

    A wet clutch, as found on most modern motorcycles runs in a bath of oil which reduces both friction and heat, up to a point. They (wet clutches) are better able to handle slipping, which is a nesessary function for a smooth take off and on some bikes it is necessary to feather (slip) the clutch for control at low speeds (U turns etc).

    If the clutch is not getting too hot you should be ok.

    Better practice I find is the put your left foot down and use the right foot on the rear brake. When you go to take off just release the clutch as normal and drop the rear brake as you just start to move.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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