Ducati vs ZZR14

[Quartermile]

Hi

Why when you look at the sad world of cages almost any ferarri would smoke almost any random nissan etc, but when you return to the real world of bikes a bike from Kawasaki (ZZR14) is the fastest production bike not a Ducati or maybe Aprilia????

[SuperDave]

www.justfuckengoogleit.com

[James Deuce]

Hi

Why ....(random question)????

You're an odd little man mate.

[sugilite:Me]

It's all about niche markets for the Itallians, they concentrate on V twin sports bikes that are made to corner. They do not have the R & D budget to produce motorcycles for every catagory like the Japanese factories do.

[nudemetalz]

You're an odd little man mate.

You said that to me as well at the cafe the other day, Jim.

What's the guts ? lol

[Big Dave]

Hi

Why when you look at the sad world of cages almost any ferarri would smoke almost any random nissan etc, but when you return to the real world of bikes a bike from Kawasaki (ZZR14) is the fastest production bike not a Ducati or maybe Aprilia????

In a straight line only.

[Edbear]

Granted, but the MV 1000 is pretty damn fast! And it's called the Ferrari of motorcycles.

The Ities are determined not to be left behind in the sportsbike arena despite their smaller budgets compared to the Japs. I think they do pretty well, considering.

[Quasievil]

Granted, but the MV 1000 is pretty damn fast! And it's called the Ferrari of motorcycles.

Errr no that would be the Ducati is the ferrari of motorcycles

[Crisis management]

Maybe its the question thats wrong, if you compared Ferrari's with Maserati's then that would be a better analogy to comparable sportsbikes.
After that its what colour / style / noise / brand you like personally.
Maybe its a secret plot by Spank me to keep people on this site arguing??, Sorry, healthy discussion..

[98tls]

Hi

Why when you look at the sad world of cages almost any ferarri would smoke almost any random nissan etc, but when you return to the real world of bikes a bike from Kawasaki (ZZR14) is the fastest production bike not a Ducati or maybe Aprilia????

yea but the zzr14 looks like a big fat overweight whore compared to a duc....lets say roseanne compared to elle macpherson...

[Squeak the Rat]

What was the question?

The italians will be up there again. Just as soon as they change the rules......

[Finn]

Errr no that would be the Ducati is the ferrari of motorcycles

While Ducati has always been called "The Ferrari of motorcycles" this is by association only. Being italian and red. However, MV has real Ferarri bloodlines with with development of the F4 engine. This is mentioned on their website. The "F" in F4 is even the Ferarri font.

[Quasievil]

While Ducati has always been called "The Ferrari of motorcycles" this is by association only. Being italian and red. However, MV has real Ferarri bloodlines with with development of the F4 engine. This is mentioned on their website. The "F" in F4 is even the Ferarri font.

Ya reckon?
I always associated Ducati with Ferarri because both have such a long history in Motor Racing, and to this day both brands are winning races as they have done for years, this coupled with being Italian I reckon pairs them a up in a spiritual kinda way closer that Augusta does. Now that Ducati have the Desmosedici GP7 V4 I wonder the relevance of MV closeness is minimised.

Its all kinda bollocks any way, one has two wheels one has four, and all of them are fucking awesome bits of Italian Kit, and all 3 brands belong in the thoroughbred stable of machinery.

[Finn]

Well yes, the Ducati winning streak helped. MV are starting to build a name in the Superbike world with some recent wins in the UK. Once they sort out their ownership & debt, I hope to see them represented in more racing, maybe even MotoGP.

http://www.mvagusta.net/history/15

Form MV's Website...

Cagiva Motor engineers faced with a blank sheet of paper strove to do their best, starting out on the basis of the technical assumption that an MV Agusta bike, to be true to its heritage, had to have a 3 or 4 cylinder in-line engine. This configuration was totally absent in European motorcycles, so Claudio Castiglioni found himself faced with the choice of either buying a Japanese engine or creating a totally new one. He chose the second option, and started out with a project developed by Ferrari, referred to as F4, and then developed up until the present day by MV Agusta technicians and engineers.
The engine was created using exclusive solutions such as the radial valve arrangement and removable transmission, the first solution inherited from the broken up Ferrari and the second from the Cagiva GP. Industrial production of the new engine began at the same time as the design of the riding and aesthetic aspects, entrusted to the great master Massimo Tamburini, director of the CRC (Cagiva Research Centre). Tamburini already had many years' experience dressing this type of propulsor unit, accumulated during his years with Bimota (which stands for Bianchi, Morri and Tamburini). The first prototype was completed on the eve of the 1997 salon in Milan and exhibited to the press for the first time on September 16 of that year. The reporters were amazed by the marvel before their eyes, the MV Agusta F4. Red and silver just like its ancestors, with that organ pipe exhaust pipe that brings to mind lost symphonies, the MV Agusta F4 was an immediate success, the ideal object of a motorcycle lover's desire. The subsequent process of industrialisation was divided into two distinct stages: the first with production of a limited run of 300 F4 Gold Series bikes, with carbon bodies, magnesium parts and an engine with crankcases cast in earth anticipating the construction of the S model, destined for a broader range of users thanks to its price, cut by half over that of the previous version. In April 1999 the F4 Gold Series was presented in action on the Monza racetrack for the first time, attracting the attention of over a hundred trade publications. The bike was impressive for its speed of over 280 km/h and its extraordinary cycling component, universally considered to set the new standard. Despite its price of over 68 million lire, the F4 Gold Series was snapped up by the wealthiest and most dedicated motorcycle lovers all over the world. These included King Juan Carlos of Spain, F1 driver Eddie Irvine and countless prominent names in finance and fashion. Production of the new MV Agusta required a complete reorganisation of the productive cycle, converting the Schiranna plant for production of engines only, while final assembly was transferred to the new productive plant in Cassinetta di Biandronno. The new productive set-up was also a result of the production of the new F4 S, derived from the Gold Series and destined for a wider range of users and therefore produced in much larger numbers. This was the basis for all of today's variants: the special Senna series, the sporty SPR and the new Brutale. And this is where history ends and the news begins.

[Lou Girardin]

MV has a far more illustrious GP history than Ducati. If your memory goes back further than the last 10 years that is.
Check out the MV's at the Classic race meetings.