TV ad attacks 'Safe Speeding'

**Squeak the Rat** · 22nd August 2006, 15:40

Originally Posted by Flyingpony

Then again, I did see three boy racer car pile end for end in the same corner,,,

,,, it was a 55km/hr corner in Lewis pass which must be take at the speed at all times.

The issue there is NOT speed. It is dumbarse little shits pumped up on testosterone in souped up fast cars who got their licence because the tester was too scared of losing his job to fail them and are now out racing each other without the skills of being able to judge a flippin corner properly, one that was sign posted inconsistently with the other 30 before it so that they a) misunderstood the intentions of the yellow signs, and b) had lost all faith in the yellow signs being in any way meaningful.

**Lou Girardin** · 22nd August 2006, 15:43

Originally Posted by scumdog

You would be surprised at the number of drivers who crash and when their speed at the time is mentioned it's that famous mantra: "Oh, about 100 - 105ks, maybe a little over - wouldn't be anymore than 110 that's for sure"
pffft!

That's for sure. But them underestimating or you guys overestimating doesn't alter the truth.
Most accidents are not caused by exceeding the speed limit.

**scumdog** · 22nd August 2006, 15:44

Originally Posted by Flyingpony

Then again, I did see three boy racer car pile end for end in the same corner,,,

,,, it was a 55km/hr corner on Lewis pass which must be take at the speed at all times. You'd think they'd have seen all the 'Truck use low gear' signs and took this warning into consideration.

I thought all boy-racer cars were built to handle/steer/stop waaay better than the average car - and that drivers of b/r cars are razor sharp in reflex, lightning-like in decision making and expert all round drivers!!

**The Pastor** · 22nd August 2006, 15:45

Originally Posted by Jim2

You're preaching to the converted mate.

If we taught people to drive/ride instead of how to follow the rules, things would be greatly improved.

NO! you are wrong on so many levels. If we teach people to drive and take corners properly they will take them faster and since speed = accidents we will kill more people if we adop such a reckless attitude.

Originally Posted by mdooher

The cop says that a lot of accidents are happening at near 110km/h or words to that effect. ...uh duh ...that's cos most people drive at these speeds

If most drove at 70km/h then those speeds would be over represented in the accident figures

"lies, damn lies, and statistics"- Mark Twain

This is excatly why we MUST reduce the speedlimit. The chance of dieing is much lower becuase speed kills. If you speed, you will die.

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

If most accidents happen around the speed limit, then the cause is patently NOT speeding.
Besides, the cops don't know that the accidents are happening around 110 km/h. They're guessing.

This is how they're going to get our respect back.

This is reinforcing the idea that the speedlimit must be lowerd becuase accidents happen at speed!

Originally Posted by yungatart

And the guy gets done for speeding because that is 'oh so dangerous' but his rubbernecking at the accident scene isn't????

Of cource not! Use your head! Speed kills, Distractions are only a few % of total accidents! The faster you go, the quicker you get to your destination. or the bigger the mess - im always getting that one mixed up.

Your attitudes NEED to change in regards to speed. Speed is a very dangerours drug that is HIGHLY addictive. Becuase the public said 100km/hr is the limit anything over is deadly. Watch Tv and learn somthing.

**scumdog** · 22nd August 2006, 15:49

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

That's for sure. But them underestimating or you guys overestimating doesn't alter the truth.
Most accidents are not caused by exceeding the speed limit.

True, the cause is mostly their driving - which is like their speed estimation skill - decidedly inadequate.

If better training (at more expense) was introduced it would make those that passed the test better drivers (for a while at least) but those that didn't have the dosh would do as they do now - drive without a licence.

Quote: "I've never crashed so why do I need a licence anyway?"

**James Deuce** · 22nd August 2006, 15:52

Originally Posted by renegade master

NO! you are wrong on so many levels. If we teach people to drive and take corners properly they will take them faster and since speed = accidents we will kill more people if we adop such a reckless attitude.

Bling awarded

**Lou Girardin** · 22nd August 2006, 15:56

Originally Posted by scumdog

True, the cause is mostly their driving - which is like their speed estimation skill - decidedly inadequate.

If better training (at more expense) was introduced it would make those that passed the test better drivers (for a while at least) but those that didn't have the dosh would do as they do now - drive without a licence.

Quote: "I've never crashed so why do I need a licence anyway?"

Then target the unlicenced drivers.
It's all so easy when you think about it. Bit of a shame that King, Duynhoven and the rest don't. Think about it that is.

**Squeak the Rat** · 22nd August 2006, 16:35

Yep simple. If you've never had a licence then it's assumed you don't have the skills to drive because you haven't passed the test. Therefore you get done for dangerous driving and fined a shedloads of money or do some jail time.

Then make it harder to sit the test.

It's a bit harder than pointing a radar or laser though....

**The Pastor** · 22nd August 2006, 18:27

Originally Posted by Jim2

Bling awarded

Thats what the cop told me at the whangrei MOT meeting.

**James Deuce** · 22nd August 2006, 18:58

Yep. I've seen that line of reasoning presented on Telly by "Top Cops" before.

What a bunch of maroons.

**Coyote** · 22nd August 2006, 19:51

Originally Posted by yungatart

And the guy gets done for speeding because that is 'oh so dangerous' but his rubbernecking at the accident scene isn't????

I almost flew into a car on the Takas that was rubber necking behind a corner. Jamezo who was following me ended up knocking me. Only gave the rear fairing a few scratches fortunately

Bit off topic: Just before someone says all cops are just out there catching speeders, 3 years ago 2 cops came over at 3am to ask us to turn our porchlight off cause it was disturbing our neighbours

**Riff Raff** · 22nd August 2006, 20:24

Haven't seen the ad yet - which is funny really cos I'm in it.

**Hitcher** · 22nd August 2006, 20:27

LTNZ has a budget and an agency that thinks "social marketing" will cure the world's ills. An agency that discounts heavily the effects of enforcement as a behaviour modifier. Heresy.

**Finn** · 22nd August 2006, 20:42

500 - 600 dead kiwi's a year ain't that bad considering our roads, k's travelled and the low IQ of the average NZder. If this Government focused as much attention on the real issues, we'd all be better off.

I laugh at all these ads, especially this one. That bitch that's whinning as the guy drives past is priceless.

Edit: Was the you Riff Raff?