Cmon guys, Get Biker Wise!

**Big Dog** · 15th June 2004, 17:21

Well, haven't read the whole thread as everyone seems to be saying pretty much the same thing.

Older riders who don't expect to set the road on fire = safer 250 rides.

What you really need (as I recall from my younger days) is one out front leading the way (who is not a road shredder) so there is some warning of gravel etc. One in the middle so those who can't see the front have a line to follow. And a tail end Charlie who can pick up any stragglers, broken downers etc.

Having an experienced rider at the back helps younger riders keep their testosterone in their pants as they can't possibly be comming last.

1. needs to have good lines but a handle on reality.
2. needs to have good lines but a handle on reality and not mind being in the middle of a lot of inexperienced riders.
3. needs to not mind being last, and should know some first aid, and some basic mechanics.

**Motoracer** · 15th June 2004, 17:23

TS, ya fast cu*t! Ease down with the modesty will ya!!

**Two Smoker** · 15th June 2004, 17:26

Originally Posted by Motoracer

TS, ya fast cu*t! Ease down with the modesty will ya!!

Your the bloody fast guy

**Big Dog** · 15th June 2004, 17:28

I kinda like tail end charley myself, but I don't have a first aid kit.

**Quasievil** · 15th June 2004, 17:30

Originally Posted by Big Dog

I kinda like tail end charley myself, but I don't have a first aid kit.

I always have a comprehensive first aid kit on rides, ex boy scout now a complete nana lol, I think there should be one on group rides.

**Quasievil** · 15th June 2004, 17:31

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

Your the bloody fast guy

Im with MR I didnt see you all day TS, apart from when ya past me

**Motoracer** · 15th June 2004, 17:37

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

Your the bloody fast guy

I think an engine which is four times the size of yours and is tuned for racing, with an extra 3 cylinders might just have something to do with it as well.

I know that I am fairly fast even though there are plenty of faster riders out there than me. You my friend better be fooling around and not seriously doubting your ability and talent, cause your good.

**RiderInBlack** · 15th June 2004, 17:48

TS your not slow! On the track I need my 1000 to your 150 just so I can pass you on the back straight, only to have you retake me exiting the hairpin and before passing the pit line

You'd bet me all the way around the track with a TwoStroke 250

**FROSTY:Me** · 15th June 2004, 18:23

TS needs a gn125 for road riding--just to keep his licence--save the go fast for the track

**Big Dog** · 15th June 2004, 18:28

Originally Posted by XJ/FROSTY

TS needs a gn125 for road riding--just to keep his licence--save the go fast for the track

Magua is selling one.

**Two Smoker** · 15th June 2004, 18:28

Originally Posted by XJ/FROSTY

TS needs a gn125 for road riding--just to keep his licence--save the go fast for the track

LOL, i rode Milky's CB125T and had a fun time on that, although i didnt like the mega vibration and dodgy handing

**MadDuck** · 15th June 2004, 20:28

Id be keen to show some slower riders some lines (although i dont know much being slow myself) as i do this with Milky too increase his pace.... Mad Duck if you keen ill do it with you

Thanks for the offer TS id be more than keen. My concern is that I dont have velcro sticky on knee pads like you

I always get nervy when faster guys behind cos waiting for the "whoosh" as they zoom past. I am ok on the sweepers but the tight corners I often misjudge...mind elsewhere half the time! Its a girl thing

MikeL mentioned about Pukekohe having "Track Days" where the marshalls take the slower people around and increase the pace over the day. It sounds like a brilliant way to get more confidence on the twisty bits I thought. Havent yet found the link but will let ya all know - unless MikeL reads this and posts it first.

**MikeL** · 15th June 2004, 20:42

MD
Info about Track Time is at www.northacc.co.nz/track.html
Next day is in Oct I think.

**Kwaka-Kid** · 15th June 2004, 20:50

http://www.northacc.co.nz/track.html
there you go, Tracktime! organised mostly(?) by Vince sharpe, just head down to Auckland motorcycle club on a thursday night and people can tell you all about it! or the one person on here thats a marshall at tracktime is Mitch - im sure she wouldnt mind a PM from anyone with Queries (she takes a female group out i THINK).

Anyways back to the ride. MadDuck im still sure things could have turned out better - what you did was sensible and well thought out, however making a ride for 250's (im assuming most 250 riders are learners, therefore not very experienced) and shooting some fast guys out front of them wasnt as sensible or well thought out!.

Sure if it happend on a big KB ride, or a typical MR/FF Ride (hehe!) which everyone knows is a fast one i would have more understanding. I really dont mean to kick up major fuss over this one example but to me it seems like a good ride was being set up by some new guys to it who thought they could go out with others their pace (hence 250ride) and the more experienced riders shot off possibly without giving much thought as to what the less experienced could be going through!. Ill admit im still there! its blimmin hard watching skilled guys go flying past and sweep through a corner so effortlessly whilst your 100m back thinking "hey thats awesome, people say ive got these good tyres and/or people tell me ive got some talent to this riding! damn i can keep up with him!" Least those were the thoughts that were going through my head on my first KB ride - right up untill the last KB ride, only now i really to try as best i can to be concious of it and be a little more realistic and just ride comfortably!.

Cant think of much more to put - and sorry im starting to think im just typing the same stuff over! Anyway im sure with what we have got down here so far the next ride is bound to be affected!(hopefully in the best way possible!)